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02-19-24, 05:45 PM
#7701
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02-19-24, 05:45 PM
#7702
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
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It's the rider who makes the difference. Someone who has raced and done group rides for decades should know how to be safe and not irritate others. They know to not blow up the ride. I think it's ok for them to motorpace the group if that's what the group wants. This woman, though, does not belong in a faster paced group. This is someone without the experience or skill needed and she should at least stay at the back.
But even if you just BUY speed, you can't buy bikehandling skills.
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02-19-24, 05:46 PM
#7703
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02-19-24, 05:48 PM
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02-19-24, 05:58 PM
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02-19-24, 05:59 PM
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02-19-24, 06:00 PM
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Funny, we just started talking about Ebikes on club rides for the first time last Tuesday at our monthly board meeting. A divisive topic for sure. I think many of us felt that pedal-assist (Class 1 and 3?) are OK on our C and D level rides, but not on the A ride or B ride. And no throttle-type Ebikes on any ride - is that class 2? I don't remember.
I don't seem to encounter them much in my avenues of cycling - solo training, racing and A pace rides. And I'm all for them from a utilitarian perspective, especially for commuting. But, they seem to be a hot topic for most middling club riders, which is understandable IMO.
I don't seem to encounter them much in my avenues of cycling - solo training, racing and A pace rides. And I'm all for them from a utilitarian perspective, especially for commuting. But, they seem to be a hot topic for most middling club riders, which is understandable IMO.
02-19-24, 06:02 PM
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02-19-24, 06:02 PM
#7709
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02-19-24, 06:03 PM
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02-19-24, 06:03 PM
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02-19-24, 06:07 PM
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EDIT: By contrast, the famous/notorious Spectrum Ride has no organizer. It just meets where it always met, starts at the time it always started, rides where it always rode.
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02-19-24, 06:08 PM
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So it's quite a bit more than a group of buddies that likes to refer to themselves as a club. SDBC has been around for over 75 years as well.
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02-19-24, 06:09 PM
#7714
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02-19-24, 06:10 PM
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This is my biggest concern with e-bikes, the fact that you don't "earn" the speed you can travel at. If you're riding a regular bike, you've had to put in a lot of work and miles to be able to ride at the sort of speeds ebikes can propel you at, or to be able to do the climbs that you need to do to be able to do a fast descent. You gain at least SOME bikehandling skills. And on group rides, you need miles and miles of riding just to not get dropped by even a fairly moderate ride.
But even if you just BUY speed, you can't buy bikehandling skills.
But even if you just BUY speed, you can't buy bikehandling skills.
02-19-24, 06:11 PM
#7716
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02-19-24, 06:15 PM
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I imagine once you reach a certain size, and start holding events, you want to incorporate or something to avoid individual liability if someone joins your ride and gets injured in a crash. Alto Velo, mentioned above, requires riders joining their group rides to have a signed waiver on file.
EDIT: By contrast, the famous/notorious Spectrum Ride has no organizer. It just meets where it always met, starts at the time it always started, rides where it always rode.
EDIT: By contrast, the famous/notorious Spectrum Ride has no organizer. It just meets where it always met, starts at the time it always started, rides where it always rode.
02-19-24, 06:16 PM
#7718
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My club has a board. I got drafted during Covid to be the “Ride Director” because of my medical background. It’s a crappy position and I was very happy to resign my post after 2 years.
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02-19-24, 06:18 PM
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cowboy, steel horse, etc
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My favourite cycling-by-a-stadium occurrence was rolling through the Glass House (Veterans Memorial Arena) parking lot the night before a monster truck show. That's when I learned they put skinny tractor tyre/wheel assemblies on monster trucks for transport in conventional semi trailers. It was pretty rad watching Gravedigger back out of a trailer.
Cut through the same parking lot when the circus was in town. Also pretty interesting.
Cut through the same parking lot when the circus was in town. Also pretty interesting.
02-19-24, 06:20 PM
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IIRC, Larry was complaining about being asked about a waiver when he tried to join an Alto Velo ride. So he showed them by shadowing the ride without actually joining.
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02-19-24, 06:23 PM
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Ooh, there are two bands on the calendar with cycling-oriented names. Too bad 99.625% of bands with cycling-oriented names absolutely suck.
Bonus points to the flyer designer for the vintage Macintosh font usage tho.
Bonus points to the flyer designer for the vintage Macintosh font usage tho.
02-19-24, 06:26 PM
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Also, I managed to crack the Led Zeppelin pinball 4x today so I got 10 plays for $4.00. not too bad in this day and age.
02-19-24, 06:42 PM
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This is my biggest concern with e-bikes, the fact that you don't "earn" the speed you can travel at. If you're riding a regular bike, you've had to put in a lot of work and miles to be able to ride at the sort of speeds ebikes can propel you at, or to be able to do the climbs that you need to do to be able to do a fast descent. You gain at least SOME bikehandling skills. And on group rides, you need miles and miles of riding just to not get dropped by even a fairly moderate ride.
But even if you just BUY speed, you can't buy bikehandling skills.
But even if you just BUY speed, you can't buy bikehandling skills.
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02-19-24, 06:48 PM
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02-19-24, 06:48 PM
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