Alexthe

I know it may sound like, oh why would you want to do that.......? But she's going to be my only bike at least for some time. it's like pushing,a Porsche, to lug around stuff. But I have shopping to do I need a rear rack for the sports bike, and there is no eyelet as the pictures say.

The red bike is my 1978 Motobecane Grand Jubilee , which will likely now, be sold. It's a little big for my frame .

bikingshearer 

Putting a rear rack on a frame designed for racing can done using P-clips, a nut/bolt/washer set up in the cutout part the rear drop-out or something similar- I've done it, and my first loaded tour was done that way - but it is suboptimal both in terms of the bike's handling and what you will inevitably do to the frame's paint and maybe tubes from clamping things where clamping was not envisioned. I'd suggest looking into a big seat bag and maybe a front randonneur bag instead.

bboy314

https://www.axiomgear.com/products/r...iner-road-dlx/

Get something like this, which mounts using the quick release. And make sure to use a good quality external cam quick release skewer.

machinist42

These work great with P-clamps only needed on the upper seat stays, where there is little to no real stress.
(Superficial rust wiped off, installed these on a 1973 Acer-Mex Carabela Profesional with Dura Ace dropouts. Bear in mind later Campagnolo dropouts have slightly larger 'triangles and these don't quite fill the hole. They still work, but it is suboptimal. There are other options, as the second and third photos show.)

None appear currently available on eBay, but they do show up from time to time.







(Photos source.)

Bianchigirll 

machinist42 I was just about to post that same pic when I saw your reply. Too bad they don’t make those anymore. Or anyone make them

oneclick 

I made a set for a mechanic at the LBS who had an ugly bodged setup for a rack (did have a set of the originals to work from...)

One trick that could work is a pair (each side) of hard rubber faucet washers, look for the right size with conical seats; put a pair of thin flat washers on either side.

JohnDThompson 

One could probably cobble up a functional equivalent to the Blackburn adaptor with a couple bolts, nuts, and washers and a thick rubber washer or section of wine cork with a hole for the bolt, to fill the window in the dropout between the washers.

But a race bike is arguably not ideal for carrying cargo: Short chainstays limit heel clearance for panniers, and squirrelly handling doesn't sit well with carrying a load. The Gios could likely be sold to fully fund a more appropriate bike for loads.

roadcrankr

I use the seatpost type with braces that clamp to the seat tubes for heavier loads.
Installs and removes in less than ten minutes. It works very well for my non-touring activity.

Amazon.com: Lumintrail Bike Commuter Carrier Rack w/Seatpost Quick Release Rear Mount for Bicycle Cargo : Everything Else

bikingshearer 

Interesting idea, but I would think that would really complicate trying to get the rear wheel off to fix a flat. It would be bad enough at home, but it looks like it would be a major PITA on the road.

Reynolds 

I tried a similar one a couple of times and didn't like it - when braking loaded it tended to swing to one side.

Alexthe

Yes I'm going to use a front randonneur , nothing fancy, just a 80's cannondale . As for a big seat bag what did you have in mind?

Alexthe

Oh that's not good............ And I was considering this, as a really good solution, because you can take it off.

Alexthe

And it's as ugly as hell , and complicated looking to.

Alexthe

If I have a set up that can act, as having an eyelet , using the open space of the down tube I can put an attractive rear rack on and hang my Ortleib on it . Something maybe from Velo orange?

squirtdad

I cobbled up one from plumbing washers (cone washers, etc) from ACE.... the real ones work better,

Alexthe

I definitely don't want to sell the Gios I want to see what life is like with it for a while. it seems like an extraordinarily fine bicycle .I might need two bicycles( a 1938 Sunbeam ?) one for carrying stuff and one for just riding but I really didn't want to do that, living in New York City with limited space and resources. The Ortlieb bags are very adjustable they can be moved quite far back so that there would be clearance for my foot in the pedal stroke. And I would put enough weight upfront to balance things. Bicycles ride better when most of the weight is upfront anyway, when carrying stuff.
And I kind of wanted ( although it WILL break my heart to sell her) to help fund the Italian stallion.

bboy314

I’ve had to fix a flat on the road using this rack with panniers. Removing the wheel is as complicated as removing the quick release skewer.

bboy314

To each their own of course, but I actually think these look good on road bikes due to their slim design, and work well because they carry the load a little further back which helps with short chainstays. And there’s nothing complicated about its design, just remove the QR skewer to remove the wheel (which I guess adds about 20 seconds total to flat fix time).

mgopack42 

Alexthe If space is the issue, and you can afford it, check out Tailfin. here is how i set up my Masi 3V for a week long ride down the California coast. Not cheap, but really well made, and engineered. Tailfin racks I bought the 10 liter (shown) and 20 liter rear bags. I used one 20 liter for the most part, and shipped another fully loaded to the second last stop, full of weekend clothes, and schlepped it to the weeknd stop.

rumrunn6

yes. you can find rubber coated p-clips at the hardware store. some cycling parts companies make better ones, which I assume fit better. just took a quick peek at one of my bikes. used a wrap of electrical tape on the frame. getting the exact correct size for your frame may be a challenge. I like wing nuts & lock washers. sorry about the bad photos

PhilFo 

I use a large Carradice saddlebag with a support, on bikes which don't have eyelets for rack mounting. In my largest bag I can carry an extra pair of shoes (if I really wanted), slacks, dress shirt, undershirt, small coffee thermos, a cheese sandwich (extra mayo helps to slip the sandwich in), and a few necessary tools. I usually commute with a fanny pack with a few things, so the saddlebag isn't loaded that full. I haven't carried a spare pair of shoes in ages, but I know I have the room to do so.

Classtime 

Depending on how much stuff you shop for...a Carradice saddle bag is the way to go.

John E

I use P-clips on the Schwinn, which is a competition mountain bike repurposed as my daily driver. I take advantage of the drive side chain hanging tab to keep them from sliding down the seat stays. Works great, with our without my drop-on panniers.

Bianchigirll 

Interesting idea

Alexthe

Hello I will reconsider this idea I wonder whether it comes in chrome or a different color than the flat black and........ what do you mean by a quality external cam quick release skewer ?