gwin525

Hi All,
I have a 60 anniversary edition Schwinn Paramount titanium complete and original bike I had built new by a dealer. It's all DureAce and has the the carbon fiber fork that was made for the frameset, I believe. I told the dealer at the time I wanted the very best road bike I could get, and this was it. It has been in storage for many years, but is in great shape with under 2000 original miles. I can't yet post pictures as I am new to the forum and need to post 10 times before I can post pictures but can send privately, if you would like. Any Ideas what it is worth?
Thanks!

nomadmax 

Sounds like the straight walled Ti frames Serotta made.

Bianchigirll 

Good Morning and welcome to the forums. You can upload pics to you album and we can look at them. Aside from condition of the bike selling price will depend on where you are and how you want to sell it. A bike like this will likely be appealing to Schwinn collectors but you need to able to reach them and be ready to ship. Our sales forum here is a great place to make sure the bike falls into the right hands but eBay and market place will get the broadest audience.

CliffordK

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CliffordK

Beautiful bike in excellent condition.
It looks like some front brake track wear, but the Cassette and Chainrings all look good.

I am finding a few mentions of similar bikes, but none are currently for sale on E-Bay.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/threa...ersary.334251/

I would expect the bike to go for somewhere around $2000.

If it was put on E-Bay, "Buy It Now", and a person had patience to wait a year or so for it to sell, the price might be significantly higher.

jamesdak 

That's a beauty for sure. The guy I bought my mint Pinarello from last year had one of though. Super sweet bike and he praised the ride.

More info on these here:

https://www.roadbikereview.com/threa...mounts.210302/

wrk101

Important to note in most local markets, you will not get full value for the bike. In my market, you would only get a small fraction. That leaves eBay for selling, which means you have to be willing to pack and ship at a reasonable price. And then you have all the fees. But in return, you might get 3 to 4 times the value for your bike (location dependent).

As a result, in my weak market, I am typically only a buyer, never a seller. Short of selling to myself, there is no way for me to get the value out of the nicer stuff.

Bikes identical to yours have sold for $1800 to $2300 on eBay.

jamesdak 

And I think time of year matters too. I've had several bike languish on the local markets for months during the winter. Once spring hits people start thinking about getting out and riding and all of a sudden the interest pics up and the bikes start selling.

Plus to most these are just another Schwinn and they don't recognize the quality. I had one of the Reynolds 853 Circuits from this era and it was a top notch frame. Yet, they just never carry the "prestige" of other 853 frames like a Lemond so don't usually draw much money when sold.

91Bear

Did you ever sell this beauty?

zukahn1 

I would guess $800-900 on a local as is were is sale and $2000-2300 plus a $100 shipping on Ebay. Great looking and riding bike.

Robvolz 

Great looking bike

precia looking fork

ok, from my meager understanding of framebuilding, I imagine there is a leap of difference in traditional brazing and micro titanium welding.

Who did Schwinn farm these out to??

afterall, even merckx titanium’s were made by LiteSpeed.

bikingshearer 

Titanium frames are TIG-welded. AFAIK, they all have been from the Teledyne Titan on. The earlier Speedwells may have been joined using a different method - this listing says they were fillet brazed, and the joints are very smooth - but I have my doubts, as titanium has to be heated and joined in an oxygen-free environment and I don't know if that is feasible when brazing.

Of course, if I am completely wrong here (and it is possible), someone will be along presently to let us all know.

merlinextraligh

IMHO, the only thing that legitimately can be viewed as a true Schwinn or Paramount, post Schwinn’s bankruptcy was built by Richard Schwinn in Waterford Wisconsin.

while this may be a nice bike, I personally would put no legacy value on a Tig Welded titanium “Paramount”

This is simply not the 60th anniversary of a true Paramount. The market may disagree with me, but I’d put little more collector value on this bike than on any number of Chinese made, “Schwinn” branded bikes, unless you’re a Serotta collector.

merlinextraligh

When this bike was made, the original Schwinn family company was long gone. There was no Schwinn actually making bikes. So the question would be better put as: “To whom did Zell-Chilmark ( the private equity group that owned the Schwinn and Paramount names post bankruptcy) or their successor Quest Partners, license the name for this bike?”

The answer to that question appears to be Ben Serotta

Kabuki12

Great discussion but I think the bike and the OP are long gone by now!

cb400bill

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