Hack article slights Armstrong
07-29-04, 04:56 PM
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Wow, I did not realize that "REAL" athletes retire early b/c they failed 3 drug tests. Yeah thats right, our beloved "REAL" athlete Ricky Williams retires b/c of failing a drug test for the 3rd time. Nice Job Ricker!
https://msn.foxsports.com/story/2611086?GT1=4244
https://msn.foxsports.com/story/2611086?GT1=4244
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07-29-04, 05:02 PM
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BTW, Lance is the S**T!!!!
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Originally Posted by Brahman Bull
Wow, I did not realize that "REAL" athletes retire early b/c they failed 3 drug tests. Yeah thats right, our beloved "REAL" athlete Ricky Williams retires b/c of failing a drug test for the 3rd time. Nice Job Ricker!
https://msn.foxsports.com/story/2611086?GT1=4244
https://msn.foxsports.com/story/2611086?GT1=4244
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Man, talk about ignorant.
Wayne Gretzky was skinny enough in his prime to win the Tour de France. Dennis Rodman could have if it wouldn't have bored him to death. Alex Rodriguez would have if there were more money in it.
This isn't personal on my part. A half-hour on a stationary bike is about my limit. I'd have trouble riding around France for three weeks in a Porsche unless it was chauffeur-driven.
Back to Williams, the point being anybody who ever carried the football once in the NFL is a better athlete than even cycling's best ever.
Put it this way: Williams could peddle a bicycle for a couple hours in the Tour de France but Armstrong couldn't survive a single hit in the NFL.
Wow.... I cannot believe this guy got the job. Wayne Gretzky was skinny enough in his prime to WIN the Tour De France?
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"Williams could peddle a bicycle for a couple hours in the Tour de Fra nce but Armstrong couldn't ...."
This is the most ignorant thing ive ever read.
Wayne Gretzky was skinny enough in his prime to win the Tour de France. Dennis Rodman could have if it wouldn't have bored him to death. Alex Rodriguez would have if there were more money in it.
This isn't personal on my part. A half-hour on a stationary bike is about my limit. I'd have trouble riding around France for three weeks in a Porsche unless it was chauffeur-driven.
Back to Williams, the point being anybody who ever carried the football once in the NFL is a better athlete than even cycling's best ever.
Put it this way: Williams could peddle a bicycle for a couple hours in the Tour de France but Armstrong couldn't survive a single hit in the NFL.
Wow.... I cannot believe this guy got the job. Wayne Gretzky was skinny enough in his prime to WIN the Tour De France?
...
"Williams could peddle a bicycle for a couple hours in the Tour de Fra nce but Armstrong couldn't ...."
This is the most ignorant thing ive ever read.
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"Back to Williams, the point being anybody who ever carried the football once in the NFL is a better athlete than even cycling's best ever."
Refrigerator Perry carried the football a couple of times. That guy made a living off of being fat. What an amazing athlete he was.
Refrigerator Perry carried the football a couple of times. That guy made a living off of being fat. What an amazing athlete he was.
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Although I disagree with like 99.9% of this dudes article, I do have to say Ricky Williams is an awesome athlete. Having played football before "some" football players are pretty darn good athletes, let me emphasize that "some"! But to compare Lance to Ricky, I don't know man, Lance is just sick! I don't know if he's the greatest athlete but he's pretty close.
07-29-04, 08:07 PM
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Yes, NFL running backs are very gifted athletes. No question at all.
But Ricky Williams and Lance Armstrong are very different types of athletes, and I think they illustrate the differences in American athletes (very large, explosive, primarily rely on strength) and Europoean athletes (slimmer, durable, rely on aerobic ability). Football and soccer (what the rest of the world calls football) for example.
Even the average baseball player has become burly. I think its an interesting observation that we Americans glorify the bigger, stronger athlete while Europeans celebrate smaller--dare I say fitter--athletes. I hope there's room for the latter in American sports.
But Ricky Williams and Lance Armstrong are very different types of athletes, and I think they illustrate the differences in American athletes (very large, explosive, primarily rely on strength) and Europoean athletes (slimmer, durable, rely on aerobic ability). Football and soccer (what the rest of the world calls football) for example.
Even the average baseball player has become burly. I think its an interesting observation that we Americans glorify the bigger, stronger athlete while Europeans celebrate smaller--dare I say fitter--athletes. I hope there's room for the latter in American sports.
07-29-04, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
Yes, NFL running backs are very gifted athletes. No question at all.
But Ricky Williams and Lance Armstrong are very different types of athletes, and I think they illustrate the differences in American athletes (very large, explosive, primarily rely on strength) and Europoean athletes (slimmer, durable, rely on aerobic ability). Football and soccer (what the rest of the world calls football) for example.
Even the average baseball player has become burly. I think its an interesting observation that we Americans glorify the bigger, stronger athlete while Europeans celebrate smaller--dare I say fitter--athletes. I hope there's room for the latter in American sports.
But Ricky Williams and Lance Armstrong are very different types of athletes, and I think they illustrate the differences in American athletes (very large, explosive, primarily rely on strength) and Europoean athletes (slimmer, durable, rely on aerobic ability). Football and soccer (what the rest of the world calls football) for example.
Even the average baseball player has become burly. I think its an interesting observation that we Americans glorify the bigger, stronger athlete while Europeans celebrate smaller--dare I say fitter--athletes. I hope there's room for the latter in American sports.
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Originally Posted by Crack'n'fail
Refrigerator Perry carried the football a couple of times. That guy made a living off of being fat. What an amazing athlete he was.
Nice!!!! Very True
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07-30-04, 02:03 PM
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I read that the other day, it is sickening.
...and getting stoned with Gina Gershaw and Lenny Kravits is much more fun. 
I think he title should have been "mediocre athletes don't ride bikes". I recall Walter Payton playing for over a decade.
Like, it's no surprise Williams announced his retirement the week NFL training camps begin, because few football players want to go through that. Nor is it surprising Williams quit after five seasons, because that's as long as any human being should have to endure the punishment.
I think he title should have been "mediocre athletes don't ride bikes". I recall Walter Payton playing for over a decade.
07-30-04, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ehenz
...and getting stoned with Gina Gershaw and Lenny Kravits is much more fun.
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
Give me a break....
https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/co...intid=38194111
https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/co...intid=38194111
07-30-04, 03:12 PM
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Another reader's response to Mike Imrem's column, published today in the
same Chicago newspaper (Dailly Herald):
No Headline
Daily Herald Reports
Posted 7/30/2004
Column insulting to the sport of bicycling
Mike Imrem's column "Top athletes don't ride bicycles" was one of the most
ignorant pieces of reporting I could ever imagine gracing the front page of
a respectable sports paper.
I used to admire the Daily Herald's in-depth coverage of local high school
sports regardless of the sports' popularity. Any respect I once held for
this paper was lost after reading this column.
I would like to know where Mike Imrem gets off demeaning not only the sport
of cycling, but the entire realm of endurance sports. I'm sorry, Mike, but a
basic class in exercise science would have taught you that skill
acquisition, such as catching a ball, has no carry-over to increasing your
cardiovascular endurance. One of the reasons elite cyclists like Armstrong
are able to compete at the level they do is because their bodies are able to
utilize extremely high volumes of oxygen in relation to their body weight.
This means their muscles are able to function at a high level for long
periods of time. That fact alone should tell you it is virtually impossible
for an "angry 300-pounder" to simply take up an endurance sport and excel at
it.
This paper should be embarrassed that it allowed a person with such
narrow-minded views to express his ridiculous opinion alongside the story
about the accomplishments of a fantastic athlete like Lance Armstrong.
Christopher J. Nasti
Naperville
same Chicago newspaper (Dailly Herald):
No Headline
Daily Herald Reports
Posted 7/30/2004
Column insulting to the sport of bicycling
Mike Imrem's column "Top athletes don't ride bicycles" was one of the most
ignorant pieces of reporting I could ever imagine gracing the front page of
a respectable sports paper.
I used to admire the Daily Herald's in-depth coverage of local high school
sports regardless of the sports' popularity. Any respect I once held for
this paper was lost after reading this column.
I would like to know where Mike Imrem gets off demeaning not only the sport
of cycling, but the entire realm of endurance sports. I'm sorry, Mike, but a
basic class in exercise science would have taught you that skill
acquisition, such as catching a ball, has no carry-over to increasing your
cardiovascular endurance. One of the reasons elite cyclists like Armstrong
are able to compete at the level they do is because their bodies are able to
utilize extremely high volumes of oxygen in relation to their body weight.
This means their muscles are able to function at a high level for long
periods of time. That fact alone should tell you it is virtually impossible
for an "angry 300-pounder" to simply take up an endurance sport and excel at
it.
This paper should be embarrassed that it allowed a person with such
narrow-minded views to express his ridiculous opinion alongside the story
about the accomplishments of a fantastic athlete like Lance Armstrong.
Christopher J. Nasti
Naperville
07-30-04, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
Another reader's response to Mike Imrem's column, published today in the
same Chicago newspaper (Dailly Herald):
No Headline
Daily Herald Reports
Posted 7/30/2004
Column insulting to the sport of bicycling
Mike Imrem's column "Top athletes don't ride bicycles" was one of the most
ignorant pieces of reporting I could ever imagine gracing the front page of
a respectable sports paper.
I used to admire the Daily Herald's in-depth coverage of local high school
sports regardless of the sports' popularity. Any respect I once held for
this paper was lost after reading this column.
I would like to know where Mike Imrem gets off demeaning not only the sport
of cycling, but the entire realm of endurance sports. I'm sorry, Mike, but a
basic class in exercise science would have taught you that skill
acquisition, such as catching a ball, has no carry-over to increasing your
cardiovascular endurance. One of the reasons elite cyclists like Armstrong
are able to compete at the level they do is because their bodies are able to
utilize extremely high volumes of oxygen in relation to their body weight.
This means their muscles are able to function at a high level for long
periods of time. That fact alone should tell you it is virtually impossible
for an "angry 300-pounder" to simply take up an endurance sport and excel at
it.
This paper should be embarrassed that it allowed a person with such
narrow-minded views to express his ridiculous opinion alongside the story
about the accomplishments of a fantastic athlete like Lance Armstrong.
Christopher J. Nasti
Naperville
same Chicago newspaper (Dailly Herald):
No Headline
Daily Herald Reports
Posted 7/30/2004
Column insulting to the sport of bicycling
Mike Imrem's column "Top athletes don't ride bicycles" was one of the most
ignorant pieces of reporting I could ever imagine gracing the front page of
a respectable sports paper.
I used to admire the Daily Herald's in-depth coverage of local high school
sports regardless of the sports' popularity. Any respect I once held for
this paper was lost after reading this column.
I would like to know where Mike Imrem gets off demeaning not only the sport
of cycling, but the entire realm of endurance sports. I'm sorry, Mike, but a
basic class in exercise science would have taught you that skill
acquisition, such as catching a ball, has no carry-over to increasing your
cardiovascular endurance. One of the reasons elite cyclists like Armstrong
are able to compete at the level they do is because their bodies are able to
utilize extremely high volumes of oxygen in relation to their body weight.
This means their muscles are able to function at a high level for long
periods of time. That fact alone should tell you it is virtually impossible
for an "angry 300-pounder" to simply take up an endurance sport and excel at
it.
This paper should be embarrassed that it allowed a person with such
narrow-minded views to express his ridiculous opinion alongside the story
about the accomplishments of a fantastic athlete like Lance Armstrong.
Christopher J. Nasti
Naperville
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07-30-04, 06:42 PM
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This "story" came out at exactly the same time last year (and possibly the year before that). When are people going to realise that "news" doesn't rehash itself. About the only shocking or surprising about this article is that anyone is shocked/surprised enough by it to bother issuing a response.
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07-30-04, 06:54 PM
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Mr Imrem do you now or have you ever been a member of the bicycling party? I remind you Mr Imrem you are under oath
07-30-04, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Crack'n'fail
"Back to Williams, the point being anybody who ever carried the football once in the NFL is a better athlete than even cycling's best ever."
Refrigerator Perry carried the football a couple of times. That guy made a living off of being fat. What an amazing athlete he was.
Refrigerator Perry carried the football a couple of times. That guy made a living off of being fat. What an amazing athlete he was.
07-31-04, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
This "story" came out at exactly the same time last year (and possibly the year before that). When are people going to realise that "news" doesn't rehash itself. About the only shocking or surprising about this article is that anyone is shocked/surprised enough by it to bother issuing a response.
07-31-04, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Crack'n'fail
Because, like Mr. Imrem, we have the freedom of speech. I disagree that he should have been kept from running this article, it creates the spirited debate that it intends to. I also disagree that we shouldn't respond, it creates the spirited debate that it intends to.
https://www.velonews.com/news/fea/6707.0.html
i agree wholeheartedly.
07-31-04, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Crack'n'fail
Because, like Mr. Imrem, we have the freedom of speech. I disagree that he should have been kept from running this article,
Originally Posted by Crack'n'fail
I also disagree that we shouldn't respond, it creates the spirited debate that it intends to.
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Success draws this sort of leech like manure draws flies. That article was so far off base and so inflammatory that the author was just latching on to Lance's publicity to boost his own ratings.
Best way to deal with bottom feeders like that is to ignore them. They live on ratings - make them starve.
Best way to deal with bottom feeders like that is to ignore them. They live on ratings - make them starve.
