noisebeam

On a 8mi stretch of metro-phoenix urban freeway (exits every 1mi) there was a speeding and accident problem (which for a while had the highest freeway fatality rate per mile in the US) Speed camera enforcement was put in place (ticketing drivers 76mph and over). Average speed went down ~10mph and accident rate went down. Travel times were reduced on average to due to reduced accident rate. I read about this ~1mo. ago, but can not find the report anymore online, but will be happy to when I finally find it.

Found a new article referencing the study:
https://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/115766

Al

på beløb

I went for a little ride to Egeskov Slot, and on my way home through Ørbæk a speed trap showed my speed as 72 kph, no other traffic on the road, so it could only be me on my tourer. Now, I might be fast on the DH races, but I've never managed that speed anywhere in Denmark.

So forgive me, eye-witness testimony might be imperfect, but what isn't?

markjenn

In most states, this is illegal. I don't understand how someone can argue that drivers need to observe the letter of the law and adhere to speed limits, but then decided a different law shouldn't apply to them. Who do you think the "Keep Right Except to Pass" signs are posted for????

On a personal note, I find your attitude here absolutely reprehensible. Why can't you be bothered to move over and let others proceed at the pace they want? Who appointed you ruler of the road?

I wish some of you would drive in Europe for a week. As I've said before in this thread, if European drivers behaved as stupidly as most US drivers, they'd be gridlocked within an hour.

- Mark

MarkS

Not for speeders, that's for sure. Or do you think people who want to break the law should get their own lane? Who granted you these special privileges?

No. Its your attitude that is reprehensible. There's a speed limit, and you're trying to figure out all the ways you can get around it. And you're criticizing people who who want to drive safely. And you're even teaching your kid how to speed. Maybe you should teach him how to shoplift too? Any other crimes you want to pass onto your offspring? Be sure to have him fill out his donor card.

MarkS

Eye witness isn't a little imperfect, its a lot imperfect, as more and more studies are proving. We don't store "snapshots" of events in our memories, but crude descriptions of them, which become distorted by subsequent recollections and events.

Whenever I cycle by the "You're going this fast" devices, I'm amazed at how close they are to what my speedometer reads. Amazed that they can even detect a lone cyclist.

noisebeam

Every single one of them has matched my bike speedometer and GPS speed readout. There are lots of them I encounter riding around where I live - four on my commute route alone.

Its not the 70s anymore, the technology has refined in the years to be easy to set up and calibrate.

Al

uke

55mph everywhere would be a great start. And 20mph within town and city limits. Of course, neither limit would have meaning without enforcement.

WadePatton

I went from 17 to 20mpg with a 7200# 4wd pickup-(turbo diesel, 200k, 10 years old). I acquired an old nissan 4cyl gasser but it barely beats 20, so I use it for farm chores. And I drive <200 miles per week. Cutting back further very soon.

Carusoswi

I am not suggesting that I have a right to cruise in the left lane, however, if I am overtaking a slower vehicle, whether that vehicle is moving 10 mph slower or just 3 mph slower, I should not have to accelerate above the speed limit to hurry my pass only to accommodate some impatient driver who, looking to cruise at 20 mph above the speed limit, is aggravated that I won't get out of his/her way.

I would argue that the keep right except to pass signs are posted for all drivers, and that they are posted with the expectation that all drivers are driving within the posted speed limit. Personally, I do keep right except to pass. OTOH, if I set my cruise control to 65 mph, I should be able to spend as much time in that left lane as necessary in order to pass another vehicle without having some tough guy (or girl) running up on my bumper flashing his/her lights and honking his/her horn because I am "in their way" impeding their progress because they choose to cruise at 80 and claim that left lane as their own special express lane.

C'mon, tell me how you feel when this happens to you.

BTW - I'm no boyscout. I speed at times, also. But, if I am speeding, I don't go running up on the bumpers of cars in front of me. If there is traffic blocking my way, I slow to the prevailing speed. Where can you go at 80mph in moderate to heavy traffic moving along at 65 mph or less . . . nowhere, so what right have I (or anyone else) to start flashing my light and honking my horn as if I'm some sort of emergency vehicle that can expect the sea of traffic to part in accommodation? I am worse (in that situation) than nobody.

Caruso

genec

Actually if everyone drove at 65MPH, no one would pass anyone else.