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Old 11-06-08, 10:35 AM
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rear disk brake on fixed gear?

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Any hubs out there that are fixed on one side and have a disk mount on the other side?

Seems like I remember you can get an Eno hub set up this way, but I don't want an Eno hub.

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Not sure about brands but as you probably already know you could do a suicide covert to get a disc/fixed hub. Lots of disc compatible hubs out there with proper spacing for mtb (which I assuming you are doing). I would probably go disc/suicide for convenience/price and since you will be using the brake to be slowing down I don't think you would be putting a lot of stress on the fixed cog so I wouldn't worry about the suicide convert.
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Phil Wood makes one with mountain bike rear spacing (135 mm). The MSRP is $279.

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Originally Posted by jhaber
Not sure about brands but as you probably already know you could do a suicide covert to get a disc/fixed hub. Lots of disc compatible hubs out there with proper spacing for mtb (which I assuming you are doing). I would probably go disc/suicide for convenience/price and since you will be using the brake to be slowing down I don't think you would be putting a lot of stress on the fixed cog so I wouldn't worry about the suicide convert.
Yeah, I can find at least three hubs like this: Surly, Dimension, and Paul. But, I really want to do this one right. Would like to have a counter-threaded lockring on there.

What about a disk/disk hub and I could Tomicog on it? That would be totally cool.

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I would be very very shocked if anyone made a disk/disk hub. If you didn't do something like a tomicog the hub would be useless except as a truly free-wheel wheel, one that could not even be pedaled.

For what its worth I am pretty happy with my tomicog fixed convert with v-brake on my 29er. I am equally happy with my track hub setup and my suicide setup. As long as they are all setup properly they get the job done equally well I feel.

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Surly is introducing a disc fixed hub, and phil wood will make you one.
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I ran into this over at MTBR:
https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=464614
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Hmm. That thread is from 2005. It mentions that Surly is coming out with the disk/fixed hub in Spring of 2006. I do not see it on their website however.

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How long did it take to get your tomicog? I feel like I've been waiting forever.
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Originally Posted by vbwstripes
How long did it take to get your tomicog? I feel like I've been waiting forever.
2-3 weeks.
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I ordered two tomicogs this summer. I got them within a couple of days. It was like magic. I have also found that they (or maybe he) answered a handful of email questions promptly also.

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fixed+ rear brake=pointless and annoying
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even more pointless is that picture above of the guy with only a disc in the back, and no brake in the front. why?
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Just use this

https://www.bikeman.com/HU9020.html?u...ign=GoogleBase

and any Shimano disk hub.

Also, whoever suggested suicide conversion: good luck finding a disk hub with a thread-on freewheel.

AND you will have to worry about chain tension and aligning the disks in the caliper. This is why the ENO comes in disk; you set up the disks and get your chain length and everything it's easy to pull the wheel because you still have vertical dropouts. Or you'll see some frames with vertical dropouts and disks, and they'll have an eccentric BB up front. I'm not explaining this well, but horizontal dropouts + disk brakes doesn't work well.

It would be WAY easier to just get a custom disk fork up front.

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Without sounding like a dickhead, I think this is generally a pointless idea. The beauty of a fixed gear ride is the connection of your legs to the drivetrain. If one wants to put a brake on for safety, that's one thing, but there's really no point to spending the cash/energy on putting a DISK brake on your rear wheel if you're riding fixed.

Now, if you wanted to rig up a SINGLE SPEED with a pair of disk brakes, I'm all for this. Disk brakes are beautiful on freewheel/geared bikes. I think it's kind of counter-intuitive to put one on a fixie.
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Old 11-06-08, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yahnming
Without sounding like a dickhead, I think this is generally a pointless idea. The beauty of a fixed gear ride is the connection of your legs to the drivetrain. If one wants to put a brake on for safety, that's one thing, but there's really no point to spending the cash/energy on putting a DISK brake on your rear wheel if you're riding fixed.

Now, if you wanted to rig up a SINGLE SPEED with a pair of disk brakes, I'm all for this. Disk brakes are beautiful on freewheel/geared bikes. I think it's kind of counter-intuitive to put one on a fixie.
^ absolute hogwash. Although a front disk brake would be better than a rear..but you also never said if you were going to do a front or not.
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Originally Posted by yahnming
Without sounding like a dickhead, I think this is generally a pointless idea. The beauty of a fixed gear ride is the connection of your legs to the drivetrain. If one wants to put a brake on for safety, that's one thing, but there's really no point to spending the cash/energy on putting a DISK brake on your rear wheel if you're riding fixed.

Now, if you wanted to rig up a SINGLE SPEED with a pair of disk brakes, I'm all for this. Disk brakes are beautiful on freewheel/geared bikes. I think it's kind of counter-intuitive to put one on a fixie.
I hate when people say stuff like this. Everyone has different needs, mate. It's not counterproductive for everyone.
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https://www.surlybikes.com/surlyblog.html

Scroll down a bit and there it is.
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-I found at least 3 companies that make a disk/freewheel hub. This is a fairly popular ss set up.

-track ends and disk does present an extra degree of complexity, but the frame I am using (Karate Monkey) has slotted disk tabs, so it is not so hard to adjust them if needed.

-Why do it? Not sure I need to defend the use of a complete brake set-up. And in this case, there is an additional reason: I want to set this bike up for switching back and forth between geared and fixed. Admittedly, it will be somewhat delicate to make it all work out right so that I can do that without redoing the brake set-up every time. And I am certainly considering setting it up with v-brakes on the rear (and disk up front) to save some grief. Need to get the components in hand to see how feasible it is.

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10 complete bikes in your sig and 6 in progress with no mention of the Karate Monkey. And you want to be able to switch it back and forth between fixed and geared?!

Dude, you have 16 other bikes!
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Originally Posted by sneaky viking
10 complete bikes in your sig and 6 in progress with no mention of the Karate Monkey. And you want to be able to switch it back and forth between fixed and geared?!

Dude, you have 16 other bikes!
And those are just the ones I bothered to list. Could be worse; its better than doing crack for a hobby.

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I'm just saying, just because the KM can do it all, doesn't mean it has to all-at-once, at-the-same-time.
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very well. i can only speak for myself and i believe there's no need to go out of one's way to rig something like this up.
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ah, nevermind, you're going with a flip flop i see. well that's totally logical then. disks are far superior to rim brakes.
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