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Old 06-01-09, 06:04 AM
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The BF Guide Awesomeness

After reading the various posts over the years, I have come to realize that in order to be a fantastic racer and rider, one must adhere to the following rules.

1. Always talk down to someone who is new or needs help.

2. Purchase the most expensive gear you possibly can, and demean others who do the same. Because who on Earth could possibly need a really expensive crank when you yourself just purchased $2,000 wheels!

3. Train with Zipp 808's and race with Zipp 303's because it's more important to look serious when you train, than it is to actually be serious when you race.

4. Use the most aggressive position you possibly can on your bike because it's more important to look fast than to have a fit that actually works for you.

5. Whenever someone wants to reduce weight on their bike, chastise them and tell them they should lose weight instead.

6. Talk like you race all the time, but don't actually race....ever.

7. Always post comments like 'correct' or 'incorrect' because they are full of substance and meaning and are most useful.

8. Never buy Trek or Cervelo because 'everyone else owns those bikes'. This means they can't possibly be that great.

9. Whenever someone wants advice on something specific, always recommend something totally different.

10. Never acknowledge another rider, because you are too busy training for the Tour de France.



I just don't understand why this place is full of so much biting sarcasm and elitism. It never used to be this bad a few years ago. It really is a shame that the first instinct is to yell 'shill' or 'troll' at someone, rather than assess what exactly is going on, first.

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Old 06-01-09, 06:09 AM
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So how small is it, really?
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Old 06-01-09, 06:10 AM
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The first two replies and you have proven my point.


'just sayin'.....
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what point?

you are accusing nearly everyone of being negative and then doing so yourself, so welcome to the forum.
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Old 06-01-09, 06:13 AM
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Not even to forget this has nothing to do with racing. If the moderators aren't asleep at the switch this should get locked or at least moved.
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Old 06-01-09, 06:15 AM
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“Write how you want, the critic shall show the world you could have written better.”
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Did you mean to put this in the Road Cycling forum? That would be more appropriate.
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Old 06-01-09, 06:21 AM
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Maybe even Foo. But they wouldn't like it either. I don't think.
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I applies equally well in both, I feel. I would repost in it road, too, but then everyone would whine about double posting.
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Old 06-01-09, 06:24 AM
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If you really think about it, many of these items apply very well. Next time pay attention when someone posts their bike photo. I guarantee some fool will come up with 'flip it' or make a comment about the chain in the wrong position, or how something does not match.

It all seems so superficial and focused on who can look the best, rather than building someone up, or even, *gasp* being polite.
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I understand SS. Sometimes, however, maybe, just maybe, some posts may be just sarcasm with no real harm intended. We don't need to get our bibs all up in a wad. But we can set examples if we don't like what we see.
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Old 06-01-09, 06:46 AM
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I'll set the over/under at 2 pages then ignored.

if in road cycling, double digit pages with at least 6 concurrent arguments at once.

OP - chill out. this is a very helpful forum that is also fun/not as serious as the wattage board or cyclingforums power forum. I've met bunches of folks from here and am even team mates with a couple of guys whose acquaintence was made through this forum. Also, bunches of newbs have jumped on here and I'll bet many are better bicyclists and bike racers because of that, in part anyway.

If you dont like it here, post elsewhere. that's pretty simple, yeah?
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Old 06-01-09, 06:53 AM
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How is this different from any other forum, name your topic.

It is the nature of the internet, you could always just not play.

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Flip it.
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Correct.
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Originally Posted by recursive
Flip it.
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Old 06-01-09, 07:29 AM
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11. Three year old technology is 'vintage' and has no place on a modern bike.

12. Bikes Direct is owned by the Son of Satan and their mailing address is in the eighth circle of hell. Their bikes spontaneously combust and aren't sprinkled with the same magic fairy dust as the name-brand bikes that the same factory produces.

Come on guys, have fun with it. This IS a very pretentious forum, doesn't mean we can't laugh about it.
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Old 06-01-09, 07:41 AM
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There are only two rules of Awesomeness in BF:

1. I'm awesome and you're not.
2. Refer to Rule 1

it's always been this way...your claims of it being different in the 'old days' are an indication of senility...which is reserved for Pcad only. One day, when Pcad is finally laid to rest in an old folks home where he can spend the rest of his days yelling at anyone and everyone to to "GET OFF MY LAWN", you can apply for the position of BF Road Forums Senile Membership.

Finally, this is the Road Racing forum...you can now be properly embarrassed at barking up the wrong tree. This forum really does need a door man.
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HTFU. The people that find this subforum useful are the ones who went from nonracer to racer, think wanders, rtc, bdcheung, SushiJoe, me, etc.

The words & attitudes here can be harsh but so is bike racing & race training. And most people here will recommend a Caad9 w/ Rival & OP's before a $4K setup, think race what you can replace.

Btw, most people here do race, need to lose weight, & need to ride in an aggressive position.

Take this crap to Road Cycling or Foo.
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Originally Posted by SilentShifter
I applies equally well in both, I feel. I would repost in it road, too, but then everyone would whine about double posting.
I do not agree with this. It does to some extent apply to the road forum, which for the most part is a parody of itself. But if you really pay attention in this forum, almost all of your points are completely misguided at best or completely wrong at worst.

Originally Posted by SilentShifter
If you really think about it, many of these items apply very well. Next time pay attention when someone posts their bike photo. I guarantee some fool will come up with 'flip it' or make a comment about the chain in the wrong position, or how something does not match.
I think you are not taking into account that in the road forum most of those comments are jokes. There is a well established "garage door photo" protocol and violating it will incite the peanut gallery. The whole "flip it" thing is a semi-serious-joke-and-parody all in one. However in this forum the focus is usually more on being functional for racing, not looks, although I think we can all appreciate some good race-rig porn.

Originally Posted by SilentShifter
It all seems so superficial and focused on who can look the best, rather than building someone up, or even, *gasp* being polite.
Building someone up? What is this, kindergarten?
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Originally Posted by SilentShifter
I just don't understand why this place is full of so much biting sarcasm and elitism.
Your list is sarcastic.
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