View Poll Results: What Are Your Helmet Wearing Habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
52
10.40%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
24
4.80%
I've always worn a helmet
208
41.60%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
126
25.20%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
90
18.00%
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The Helmet Thread 2
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My safe word is "helmet."
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Here comes the CDC
Children 0-4, Teenagers (15-19), and the Elderly (65+) are the most likely to sustain a TBI.
All of those people should wear helmets all the time. Many hit their head even when they aren't on a bike.
Children 0-4, Teenagers (15-19), and the Elderly (65+) are the most likely to sustain a TBI.
All of those people should wear helmets all the time. Many hit their head even when they aren't on a bike.
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Since about 1982, automobiles have been, essentially, helmets. When you enter one of these latter-day wonders, your brain & other lesser parts will be protected against many and even most opportunities for other, lesser objects to cause you cranial harm. The reason your car has a rounded & somewhat padded interior is to reduce peak loading on your brain (such as it may be). The main reason for seat belts & shoulder straps is to keep you from hitting the front of your car & to keep you inside where the padded interior might limit how badly you are hurt. --- The main purpose of air bags is to protect those who don't attach their seat belts.
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Here comes the CDC
Children 0-4, Teenagers (15-19), and the Elderly (65+) are the most likely to sustain a TBI.
All of those people should wear helmets all the time. Many hit their head even when they aren't on a bike.
Children 0-4, Teenagers (15-19), and the Elderly (65+) are the most likely to sustain a TBI.
All of those people should wear helmets all the time. Many hit their head even when they aren't on a bike.
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I generally don't wear a helmet while riding because I read through all the statistics and am convinced that bicycle helmets are of very little value. Also, on the bicycle, I am generally able to control most of the variables - if I fall it will almost certainly be my own fault and I will take my lumps if/when it happens. So bicycle helmets generally don't make sense for me. And I am against mandatory bicycle helmet laws for exactly the same reason I am against mandatory seat belt laws.
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Since about 1982, automobiles have been, essentially, helmets. When you enter one of these latter-day wonders, your brain & other lesser parts will be protected against many and even most opportunities for other, lesser objects to cause you cranial harm. The reason your car has a rounded & somewhat padded interior is to reduce peak loading on your brain (such as it may be). The main reason for seat belts & shoulder straps is to keep you from hitting the front of your car & to keep you inside where the padded interior might limit how badly you are hurt. --- The main purpose of air bags is to protect those who don't attach their seat belts.
As for the notion that airbags are for people who don't wear seatbelts, the NHTSA notes that seatbelt wearers are 26% less likely to die in a car crash when they also have airbags, and that of the several hundred people killed BY airbags, most were unbelted.
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I'm fixing to go shop for a helmet this afternoon. Not because I'm scared of falling and hurting myself, but because the government has, again, created laws that restrict my individual freedoms. One of the bike trails that we enjoy riding has a helmet ordinance in place. It's only for the city limits of that city, but it's a place that I have to go through if I ride that trail along the famous Natchez Trace Parkway. And we all know that the government knows what's best for all of us! (last line typed extreme sarcasm)
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I'm fixing to go shop for a helmet this afternoon. Not because I'm scared of falling and hurting myself, but because the government has, again, created laws that restrict my individual freedoms. One of the bike trails that we enjoy riding has a helmet ordinance in place. It's only for the city limits of that city, but it's a place that I have to go through if I ride that trail along the famous Natchez Trace Parkway. And we all know that the government knows what's best for all of us! (last line typed extreme sarcasm)
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Well, here we go again. Not that I have anything new to say, it just feels wrong to fail to contribtue to a helmet thread having posted so often in its predecessors.
To summarize: please feel free to wear a helmet if you wish. If you're a mountainbiker tackling technical or challenging trails, definitely wear a full-face helmet. But if you're a roadie and expect the helmet to make a material difference in the event of a collision that might otherwise kill you, you're almost certainly mistaken.
To summarize: please feel free to wear a helmet if you wish. If you're a mountainbiker tackling technical or challenging trails, definitely wear a full-face helmet. But if you're a roadie and expect the helmet to make a material difference in the event of a collision that might otherwise kill you, you're almost certainly mistaken.
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I guess it is about time I mention an "authority" on cycling safety John Forester. In his book he states that simple falling covers around 80% of cycling accidents. If that is true, then it follows that a helmet is far more effective than the anti helmet crowd is willing to admit.
I wear my helmet even on my trike, altho I really cant fall since I am already down.
I wear my helmet even on my trike, altho I really cant fall since I am already down.
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I guess it is about time I mention an "authority" on cycling safety John Forester. In his book he states that simple falling covers around 80% of cycling accidents. If that is true, then it follows that a helmet is far more effective than the anti helmet crowd is willing to admit.
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I guess it is about time I mention an "authority" on cycling safety John Forester. In his book he states that simple falling covers around 80% of cycling accidents. If that is true, then it follows that a helmet is far more effective than the anti helmet crowd is willing to admit.
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Local government! What's the issue with you not understanding that city laws/ordinances are government? Do you not have local speed limits set forth by a specific city? Other rules set for by a city? A city is the "local government" that is creating laws that over-ride your beliefs that you know what's better for you than your government does. And that is the freedom that I'm talking about. If you believe that you are safe enough riding without a helmet, but your local government thinks that you will be more safe riding the way they think, then they have taken a freedom away and imposed restrictions on you. Socialism in a form that many don't pay attention to, until it hits them with something they don't agree with. You may be one that won't mount an indoor exercise bike without a helmet, therefore you won't think this is a freedom restricting law, but if your local government stated that you couldn't ride your bike without a full geared football uniform, training wheels on your bike, and that you can't ride faster than 5 MPH, you'd be hollering "damned government!".
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ORDINANCE OF'THE MAYOR
AND BOARD OF'ALDERMEN OX'
THE CITY
OF RIDGELAND, MISSISSIPPI TO REQUIRE ALL PERSONS
TO WEAR PROTECTIVE HELMETS
\ryHEN RIDING A BICYCLE,
EITHER
AS AN OPERATOR OR A PASSENGER
V/HEREAS, the
Mayor and BoaĦd of Aldermen of the City of Ridgeland are
charged
with the obligation to protect and preserve public health, safety, and welfare;
ffid,
WHEREAS,
research has determined that two-thirds (2/3) of the deaths from
bicycle/vehicle
crashes are from traumatic brain injury; and,
WHEREAS,
one in eight cyclist with reported injuries had a brain injury; and,
WHEREAS,
an estimated 45o/o to 88% of cyclist brain injuries can be prevented
by
a helmet; and,
WHEREAS,
the Mayor and Board of Aldermen of the City of Ridgeland,
Mississippi find
that it would be in the best interest of its citizens that all operators and
passengers
of bicycles within the-public areas of the City of Ridgeland should wear
protective
helmets as a means to protect and preserve the public health, safety and
welfaĦe
of its citizens and visitors.
NOW,
THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED, by the Mayor and Board of Aldermen
of
the City of Ridgeland, Mississippi as follows, to-wit:
Section
l.
It
shall be unlawful for any person to operate, ride, or be a passenger upon a
bicycle on
any highway, street, road, sidewalk, bikeway, trial, or other public property,
unless
that person wears a protective helmet that is properly fitted and fastened. This
requirement shall apply
to a passenger who rides upon a bicycle while in a restraining
seat
which is attached to the bicycle or in a trailer towed by the bicycle.
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You may be one that won't mount an indoor exercise bike without a helmet, therefore you won't think this is a freedom restricting law, but if your local government stated that you couldn't ride your bike without a full geared football uniform, training wheels on your bike, and that you can't ride faster than 5 MPH, you'd be hollering "damned government!".
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And here is the ordinance:
ORDINANCE OF'THE MAYOR
AND BOARD OF'ALDERMEN OX'
THE CITY
OF RIDGELAND, MISSISSIPPI TO REQUIRE ALL PERSONS
TO WEAR PROTECTIVE HELMETS
WHEN RIDING A BICYCLE,
EITHER
AS AN OPERATOR OR A PASSENGER
V/HEREAS, the
Mayor and BoaĦd of Aldermen of the City of Ridgeland are
charged
with the obligation to protect and preserve public health, safety, and welfare;
ffid,
WHEREAS...[blah, blah,blah]
ORDINANCE OF'THE MAYOR
AND BOARD OF'ALDERMEN OX'
THE CITY
OF RIDGELAND, MISSISSIPPI TO REQUIRE ALL PERSONS
TO WEAR PROTECTIVE HELMETS
WHEN RIDING A BICYCLE,
EITHER
AS AN OPERATOR OR A PASSENGER
V/HEREAS, the
Mayor and BoaĦd of Aldermen of the City of Ridgeland are
charged
with the obligation to protect and preserve public health, safety, and welfare;
ffid,
WHEREAS...[blah, blah,blah]
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On the sign itself, I didn't see any fine to be imposed if one should fail to conform to the ordinance, then again, they don't post a fine on the stop signs and speed limit signs, but....
"It shall be unlawful for any person to operate, ride, or be a passenger ...."
sounded like pretty strong words and I hate to be the guinea pig that sees how far they go to enforce it.
So now.... truce?? I think we are on the same side. But if not, we can keep going.
"It shall be unlawful for any person to operate, ride, or be a passenger ...."
sounded like pretty strong words and I hate to be the guinea pig that sees how far they go to enforce it.
So now.... truce?? I think we are on the same side. But if not, we can keep going.
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The ordinance is here https://www.ridgelandms.org/wp-conten...ds/HELMET1.pdf, but since the posted copy is unsigned and undated its not clear if it was ever signed into law. Fine for violation is in section 3 Section $25 to $75
According to Municode its been adopted but not yet codified, whatever that means. Wonder if its ever enforced?
According to Municode its been adopted but not yet codified, whatever that means. Wonder if its ever enforced?