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Old 04-28-23, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I never recommend people do what I do. I'm weird.

I do find it hilarious when I get accused of emulating pros. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Someone in the 50+ forum once accused me of being an elitest snob. What??? I told him I'm the biggest Fred out there.
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Originally Posted by big john
Someone in the 50+ forum once accused me of being an elitest snob. What??? I told him I'm the biggest Fred out there.

I've been called a reverse snob and an elitist snob in GC. Guess I have at least two gears.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Nobody would mistake me for a pro either. Cycling enthusiast forum, don't get why there is SMH for bikes and gear that work.

I think there's a tendency to turn every preference into some sort of moral statement. Mostly, watching people work themselves into a lather over this stuff is pretty damn funny. Guy fixes up a Huffy and all of a sudden, he's da Vinci.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Guy fixes up a Huffy and all of a sudden, he's da Vinci.
I'm much more impressed by the guy who is actually fixing up a Huffy. If you haven't seen that thread, it's quite fascinating (IMO, YMMV).
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Originally Posted by big john
Someone in the 50+ forum once accused me of being an elitest snob. What??? I told him I'm the biggest Fred out there.
I'm confused. I thought you were the biggest John out there.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I'm much more impressed by the guy who is actually fixing up a Huffy. If you haven't seen that thread, it's quite fascinating (IMO, YMMV).

Link? Sounds like fun!
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I'm confused. I thought you were the biggest John out there.
But, given his claimed climbing speed, not a Jiffy John.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Link? Sounds like fun!
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ege-build.html
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I'm confused. I thought you were the biggest John out there.
lol. Not so big anymore. Need to ask the club to change my nickname.
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Originally Posted by big john
lol. Not so big anymore. Need to ask the club to change my nickname.
Larger Than Average John doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Larger Than Average John doesn't have the same ring to it.
A couple people have called me Medium John since my shriveling.
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Originally Posted by big john
A couple people have called me Medium John since my shriveling.
Do you speak to people in the afterlife?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Do you speak to people in the afterlife?
Oy.
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Old 04-28-23, 03:49 PM
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Do you speak to people in the afterlife?
Nope. When you get older you'll see. Sonny. Now get off my lawn.
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But don’t let them criticize your riding habits, there are millions of other cyclists like you who don’t adhere to the racing standards which are not essential to cycling enjoyment. These guys (many, not all) just think everybody who enters here should be just like them.
Yea, there is an older guy who rides a route I do and I have slowed and talked to him a few times. I don't know if he is older than me or not, but he rides a carbon-fiber road bike while wearing a tour-de france outfit, and he never goes more than about 12 mph, that is the speed he told me we were going when I slowed to ride next to him once.

When I ride a bike I just like to walk over to it in my regular clothes and jump on and go, why complicate life by having to have a different outfit for each part of the day? It reminds me of what Cher used to do in her concerts forty years ago. So in the winter I hope on the bike in the same clothing I use to shovel snow, and in the summer I ride with the same clothing I use for mowing the lawn.

I have a pair of cycling pants I wore back in the 1990s a few times, which I got somewhere used back then and may have worn in a race, I can't remember. In any old photos of I have of racing on my motobecane I am just wearing cut-off pants and a t-shirt, just like I did when I was a kid, and just like I do now in warm weather.


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Originally Posted by smd4
He thinks it gives his bike the geometry of a crit bike, and makes him go faster.
Thinking has nothing to do with it. If a "crit" bike has a steeper seat-tube angle that let's the rider have more weight over the pedals, and moving your seat forward let's you have more weight over the pedals, then it does give the bike a geometry more like your "crit" bike. And since they make the "crit" bike that way so it will be more efficient and faster, so to will moving the seat forward on a non-crit bike make it more efficient.

Thinking is only necessary for those who do not know, which is why most of the general population uses thought as it's mode of being.
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Originally Posted by beng1
Yea, there is an older guy who rides a route I do and I have slowed and talked to him a few times. I don't know if he is older than me or not, but he rides a carbon-fiber road bike while wearing a tour-de france outfit, and he never goes more than about 12 mph, that is the speed he told me we were going when I slowed to ride next to him once.

When I ride a bike I just like to walk over to it in my regular clothes and jump on and go, why complicate life by having to have a different outfit for each part of the day? It reminds me of what Cher used to do in her concerts forty years ago. So in the winter I hope on the bike in the same clothing I use to shovel snow, and in the summer I ride with the same clothing I use for mowing the lawn.

I have a pair of cycling pants I wore back in the 1990s a few times, which I got somewhere used back then and may have worn in a race, I can't remember. In any old photos of I have of racing on my motobecane I am just wearing cut-off pants and a t-shirt, just like I did when I was a kid, and just like I do now in warm weather.


That old guy is clearly a poseur and it's just not right that he can have a nice bike and kit. Especially when superior folks have to ride Huffys. Stalk his route, wait at the bottom of a hill and drop him like a hot potato. Give him the look and spank your jorts as you fly past.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
In my much younger days, when I did ride in work clothes on my commute (white pants!), I learned that the most effective way to protect the cuffs was to tuck them into my socks. Some of my bikes back in the day had chain guards, but they really weren't anywhere near as effective.
What was mass-produced were chainguards. They covered more of the chain than the guard rings put onto low-end road bikes. I think I have to put that on my to-do list, make a chainguard for my LeCoaster. Until I get time to do that, I simply roll my right pant-leg up a few times, simple and comfortable except in some freezing weather where tucking it into the sock may be better. Thanks for the tip.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
That old guy is clearly a poseur and it's just not right that he can have a nice bike and kit. Especially when superior folks have to ride Huffys. Stalk his route, wait at the bottom of a hill and drop him like a hot potato. Give him the look and spank your jorts as you fly past.
Sorry, I do not know what you are talking about. But thank-you for your time and participation just the same. Oh, you are talking about the 12mph guy. I did not drop him for any other reason than I like to stay in my zone-2, which is different for everyone, so nobody is going to be going the same speed.

I just think it is amusing to pass people up while riding a fifty year-old Huffy while wearing sneakers and cut-off jeans when they are dressed like Lance Armstrong and riding a carbon-framed aero-bike. And I think it is a positive force in the world to keep old things working and in the public's face, because the majority of the public have no idea they have any option other than to be mindless consumers, and they desperately need to be shown their options.

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I just think it is amusing to pass people up while riding a fifty year-old Huffy while wearing sneakers and cut-off jeans when they are dressed like Lance Armstrong and riding a carbon-framed aero-bike.
I'm sure you do, as does Larry!

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Originally Posted by beng1
Thinking has nothing to do with it. If a "crit" bike has a steeper seat-tube angle that let's the rider have more weight over the pedals, and moving your seat forward let's you have more weight over the pedals, then it does give the bike a geometry more like your "crit" bike. And since they make the "crit" bike that way so it will be more efficient and faster, so to will moving the seat forward on a non-crit bike make it more efficient.

Thinking is only necessary for those who do not know, which is why most of the general population uses thought as it's mode of being.
Spoiler alert: putting your seat on backwards doesn’t change your bike’s geometry one iota. No matter what you think.
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Spoiler alert: putting your seat on backwards doesn’t change your bike’s geometry one iota. No matter what you think.
And even then, it's not that crit bike geometry is more efficient than other geometries. It's that it's more specialized for riding crits - fast steering, high BB for cornering clearance, shorter cockpit, etc. It makes them less stable and less comfortable for long rides.
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Thinking is only necessary for those who do not know, which is why most of the general population uses thought as it's mode of being.
I'll have balsamic vinaigrette with that word salad, please.
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He thinks it gives his bike the geometry of a crit bike, and makes him go faster.
I would think that the purpose of moving the saddle forward is to get closer to a TT position, to get the torso lower without the legs slapping the belly.

But of course, a TT position makes for poor bike handling, the opposite of what you want in a crit bike.
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Originally Posted by beng1
I just think it is amusing to pass people up while riding a fifty year-old Huffy while wearing sneakers and cut-off jeans when they are dressed like Lance Armstrong and riding a carbon-framed aero-bike. And I think it is a positive force in the world to keep old things working and in the public's face, because the majority of the public have no idea they have any option other than to be mindless consumers, and they desperately need to be shown their options.
It's interesting how even those who dress/act like they aren't trying to project an image are in fact actively projecting an image.
You do you and continue to take issue with how others live their lives, even though their actions and decisions don't impact you.
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