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Old 07-05-21, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Spreggy
It's not just cycling, it's the world today imho. Growing up, people used to just pop into each others houses to say hi, we called it "company". Now if the doorbell rings it's like who the hell is that?
The world is just ugly, everybody hates everybody. Bring the positive vibes and wave away!
Theft is much more prevalent & more detected now compared to them ole days. The wool is no longer covering the eyes.
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Old 07-05-21, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
Good grief, a waving thread. Do a search, Larry. This has been beaten to death around here for years.
Big John: Then you don't have to read this thread: save your ire for something important.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
I'm glad that works for you. As for me, I need external validation. My self-worth is determined by others acknowledging me. If I wave and someone doesn't wave back, it makes me feel invisible; as if I'm not worthy of being seen as an equal.
You forgot to mention the importance of sneering down your nose.
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
Would you wave at someone riding a GMC Denali?
You mean a cyclist-shaped entity?
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Old 07-06-21, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
The newest generation of Jeeps make discerning proper* Jeeps tricky.


* Two door Wrangler

You can tell a proper Jeep by the way it won't start if it's parked under a cell tower.
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I'm deeply concerned with my own cycling greetings. Is a gentle nod or pinky wave enough or do I need to go full stadium baseball game wave while standing on the pedals and bowing with arms extended? I just want to fit in with my cycling peeps and not be a social outcast with complete strangers.
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Old 07-06-21, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Has to be a proper Wrangler. Liberties and others don't count
I used to own a CJ-7, and I was told that a CJ driver should never wave at a Wrangler under any circumstances. A moot point now since 99% of all rust-belt CJs have long since returned to the ferrous oxides from which they were forged.

Nowadays there are so many Wranglers around that I wonder if the owners might get carpal tunnel syndrome if they were to wave at each of them.

I now have a brand-new Subaru WRX and according to the countless Subaru videos on Youtube, I'm supposed to be waving at them too. But I don't.... There are a ton of Subarus around but the vast majority of them are SUVs and crossovers, and to them I am invisible in my little sedan. They don't wave at me, and I'm pretty sure they don't wave at each other.
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Old 07-06-21, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Maybe it's you?
No. Im sure it's you.
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Old 07-06-21, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kirbyx
Big John: Then you don't have to read this thread: save your ire for something important.
What? You mean waving isn't important?
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Old 07-06-21, 08:12 AM
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Sometimes I say "hi" if the other rider needs to adjust his/her saddle up/down.
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Old 07-06-21, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
I used to own a CJ-7, and I was told that a CJ driver should never wave at a Wrangler under any circumstances. A moot point now since 99% of all rust-belt CJs have long since returned to the ferrous oxides from which they were forged.

Nowadays there are so many Wranglers around that I wonder if the owners might get carpal tunnel syndrome if they were to wave at each of them.

I now have a brand-new Subaru WRX and according to the countless Subaru videos on Youtube, I'm supposed to be waving at them too. But I don't.... There are a ton of Subarus around but the vast majority of them are SUVs and crossovers, and to them I am invisible in my little sedan. They don't wave at me, and I'm pretty sure they don't wave at each other.
As an ex WRX owner the waving requirement is only with other WRX's, not all Subaru's. I received many such waves when I had the car.
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Old 07-06-21, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by knobd
As an ex WRX owner the waving requirement is only with other WRX's, not all Subaru's. I received many such waves when I had the car.
What if a Legacy GT driver waves at you?
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Old 07-06-21, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Sometimes I say "hi" if the other rider needs to adjust his/her saddle up/down.
Once I told a kid to raise his seat, later I realized he was on a BMX bike and all his friends would make fun of him if he raised it
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Originally Posted by knobd
As an ex WRX owner the waving requirement is only with other WRX's, not all Subaru's.
I am sure you're correct. The video titles are misleading... "Subaru Stereotypes", etc. They really mean to say WRX Stereotypes.

An even better example is the stereotype about vaping. I really doubt all those Outback and Forester and Crosstrek drivers are vaping. No way!
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Old 07-06-21, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
What if a Legacy GT driver waves at you?
Ha, good question. Seeing the scoop on the hood, I would oblige.
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
I am sure you're correct. The video titles are misleading... "Subaru Stereotypes", etc. They really mean to say WRX Stereotypes.

An even better example is the stereotype about vaping. I really doubt all those Outback and Forester and Crosstrek drivers are vaping. No way!
For vaping, true. Crosstrek=maybe; Outback=maybe a few; Forester=Very unlikely
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Originally Posted by knobd
For vaping, true. Crosstrek=maybe; Outback=maybe a few; Forester=Very unlikely
LOL Co-worker of mine had a Turbo Forester for awhile.... He didn't vape, but he chewed. He had a cup to spit in in the cupholder, but sometimes he'd miss and it was all over the center console! The neat-freak in me is still horrified.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Proper Jeep and proper VW drivers wave to each other all the time.
I made so many random friends for 2 seconds when I bought a Subaru Impreza. I assume the turbo hood scoop made it proper.
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Originally Posted by Troul
Theft is much more prevalent & more detected now compared to them ole days. The wool is no longer covering the eyes.
It isn't, really. In fact it's dropped off hugely in the last 30 years.
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
LOL Co-worker of mine had a Turbo Forester for awhile.... He didn't vape, but he chewed. He had a cup to spit in in the cupholder, but sometimes he'd miss and it was all over the center console! The neat-freak in me is still horrified.
I don't think you need to be a neat freak to be repulsed by that!
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Originally Posted by genejockey
It isn't, really. In fact it's dropped off hugely in the last 30 years.
Yep. By raw data property crimes have been dropping since the early 90s, if considered as crimes per 100000 people, property crimes have been trending downward even longer than that.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
It isn't, really. In fact it's dropped off hugely in the last 30 years.
I'll say that it changed in a worse way than before. Less likely to lose a life over a stick of gum back in the 50s, whereas now, a criminal will not think twice about the value of life.
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Originally Posted by Spreggy
It's not just cycling, it's the world today imho. Growing up, people used to just pop into each others houses to say hi, we called it "company". Now if the doorbell rings it's like who the hell is that?
The world is just ugly, everybody hates everybody. Bring the positive vibes and wave away!
I suppose if I ever encountered anyone that was worthy of a wave or greeting, I'd do it.
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Originally Posted by Troul
I'll say that it changed in a worse way than before. Less likely to lose a life over a stick of gum back in the 50s, whereas now, a criminal will not think twice about the value of life.
Violent crime is down even more than property crime, so I think that's not really true, either. People consistently overestimate the crime rate, and think it's worse now than it was 30 years ago, when exactly the opposite is true. Even the rising murder rate last year didn't even come close to the murder rate back in the late 80s/early 90s.

Starting about 1960, there was a steady rise in the rate of all crimes, for 30 years, up to a peak in about 1993 or so. Nobody knew why, though of course EVERYBODY had an opinion. Then, still with no explanation, the rates for all crimes started falling, and fell for the next 30 years. You'd think people might celebrate that, but for some reason 1) people don't seem to know it, and 2) they won't believe you if you tell them.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Violent crime is down even more than property crime, so I think that's not really true, either. People consistently overestimate the crime rate, and think it's worse now than it was 30 years ago, when exactly the opposite is true. Even the rising murder rate last year didn't even come close to the murder rate back in the late 80s/early 90s.

Starting about 1960, there was a steady rise in the rate of all crimes, for 30 years, up to a peak in about 1993 or so. Nobody knew why, though of course EVERYBODY had an opinion. Then, still with no explanation, the rates for all crimes started falling, and fell for the next 30 years. You'd think people might celebrate that, but for some reason 1) people don't seem to know it, and 2) they won't believe you if you tell them.
There's reported & unreported crime. When I say the crime is worse now than before, I am not talking across the nation. My concern for crime is based on a few factors; where I spend most of my time, where I reside, where I work, where I ride, where I vacation, locations I may have interests in etc etc.

Just because someone that is a time zone away from me chooses not to lock there doors, doesn't mean I'll base my doors being locked on there perceived or statistical data. Out of habit & where I came from, I'll continue to secure my belongings.
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