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Old 07-05-23, 03:36 PM
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Had a CroMo Handlebar Failure recently

Photo to come. The failure was most likely from a combination of repeated stress and rust from the inside. I don't think I ever rustchecked this bar and I do ride in salty winters. Thanks goodness it failed at a stop and on the upward pull of the bar.

I want to replace it with a one peice bullmoose bar that I have which is the same 22.2 quill as the original stem. However, the BM bar is shorter in height and therefore I wanted to extend it with this >>> https://cyclebabac.com/product/78-1-...tem-extenders/ or this similar one >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/374757818125?epid=1500218154

I heard from a bike shop guy that they stopped selling their particular brand of similar extender due to them not holding fast within the fork. I think that may have been a brand specific problem, or installation specific, or both.

Anyone who has used one of these extenders? I'd appreciate some feedback on it.






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Photo to come. The failure was most likely from a combination of repeated stress and rust from the inside. I don't think I ever rustchecked this bar and I do ride in salty winters. Thanks goodness it failed at a stop and on the upward pull of the bar.

I want to replace it with a one peice bullmoose bar that I have which is the same 22.2 quill as the original stem. However, the BM bar is shorter in height and therefore I wanted to extend it with this >>> https://cyclebabac.com/product/78-1-...tem-extenders/ or this similar one >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/374757818125?epid=1500218154

I heard from a bike shop guy that they stopped selling their particular brand of similar extender due to them not holding fast within the fork. I think that may have been a brand specific problem, or installation specific, or both.

Anyone who has used one of these extenders? I'd appreciate some feedback on it.

​​​​​​I've bought and used three of those so far, they're great for what they are, all steel, strong as hell, good black paint. I wish they came in chrome.
ETA: I see the cycle babac link says it has an aluminum bolt. I would avoid.
The Sunlight is all steel.

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gold standard.

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This model extender is tall, very tall. I used one during rehab of my back, when needing to sit very upright. An aluminum bolt does not bother me, just grease the threads before assembly. The bolt is used for fixing the wedge into place, after that it doesn't do much other than go along for the ride.
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Old 07-05-23, 10:51 PM
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No pics of the failure?
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I've been attempting to track down one of those extenders locally with no success yet. I'd rather just use the bullmoose bar + extender than buy a new bar (which is also proving to be difficult to find in the right dimensions).
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I had one of those from Harris Cyclery on a bicycle I eventually gave away. It's been well over a decade, but I seem to recall using an extra long Allen wrench with an adjustable wrench on the short side of the Allen to tighten it sufficiently. No idea what brand it was.
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Yikes! Glad that didn't fail catastrophically.
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horrible,

feel the steel!
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I use a quill extender on two of my bikes.

If it is good enough for Sheldon Brown...
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Impossible. Steel doesn't ever fail. Only crabon fiber fails. BF taught me this.
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How did it fail up?
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Old 07-07-23, 07:44 PM
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I ride the heavy packmule and the gentle Winnipeg headwind was making itself felt, as always. I was at a stop sign standstill and wanted to get going. I was seated and was applying counterbalancing force of the pedals to the bars (pulling) and up the left side came. Strange sensation. I thought it was the grip that came loose but sadly no. I limped it along to the intended location and then back home without incident.

I should start a separate thread in the winter biking section on making sure to rustcheck the inside of your metal handlebars. On my bar, you can see how condensation would collect near the lowest point and work it's rusty magic from within. The lowest point is right about where the clamping portion is formed.
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That is why I like steel. When it fails, the results are more often inconvenient than catastrophic. (No, I am not talking about the very high strength steel parts and frames pushed to the edge.)

I've ridden home a broken seat tube, a couple of chainstays and a fork blade. Yes, gently. But no, without any great fear that bad things were going to happen. (Fork blade was noticed a mile from home. A gentle uphill. More than that and I would have found another option.)
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
I use a quill extender on two of my bikes.

If it is good enough for Sheldon Brown...
Sometimes Sheldon was weird.

Que the flamethrowers.
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I've had a quill stem extender come loose on a ride before. It was a Soma high rise extender and came loose climbing a switchback. I tightened it back up and finished the ride, but replaced it with a quill stem that put the bars at the right height before I road it again.
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Originally Posted by SkinGriz
Sometimes Sheldon was weird.

Que the flamethrowers.
Agree.

I imagine him as actually quite weird.

You’ve got to admit that his WTH Frankenbike somehow looks a lot better than most WTH Frankenbikes


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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
I use a quill extender on two of my bikes.

If it is good enough for Sheldon Brown...
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
Agree.

I imagine him as actually quite weird.

You’ve got to admit that his WTH Frankenbike somehow looks a lot better than most WTH Frankenbikes


That’s ridiculous. And impressive.
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Kuwahara Sage, extended edition.

I think there is a potential for these extenders to become loose as there are double the quills and undoubtedly other mating of surface factors. BUT, I'll try it for now until another configuration is possible. The bullmoose is a Specialized model I don't really want to ride in the winter up here. The extender into the fork and the stem into the extender are all the way in. This extender is cro-mo.

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