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Old 11-07-22, 01:10 PM
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Now these are lights!

Pretty cool looking, I’ve never seen a setup like this before.



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Originally Posted by sloar
Pretty cool looking, I’ve never seen a setup like this before.



Those are for doing Paris Dakar Paris or the Baja 10,000.
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Twin headlights used to very very popular in the Japanese market. Attached are samples from Bridgestone, Miyata, National/Panasonic and Sekine.



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Japanese city bikes could get pretty elaborate.


From this page: https://www.ironweedbp.com/ironweed-blog/vintagejapanese
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I think @gugie did a front rack for someone who wanted that setup.
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I think @gugie did a front rack for someone who wanted that setup.
Yep, for @jyl




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Now you guys know what I want for Christmas, lol. 😁😉 This does look like something I might try to copy, kinda sorta. 😎
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Now you guys know what I want for Christmas, lol. 😁😉 This does look like something I might try to copy, kinda sorta. 😎
I'm with you. I've got a '70s Bridgestone as my 'townie' bike, and an old NightSun kit that doesn't see much action anymore. Time to start shopping porteur racks
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I wish they were on a nicer bike, seller wants $100 for the bike shown.
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I wish they were on a nicer bike, seller wants $100 for the bike shown.
Buy bike for $100, remove rack, flip bike for $75, get $75 rack for $25.



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Originally Posted by sloar
I wish they were on a nicer bike, seller wants $100 for the bike shown.
The bicycle looks like an entry level Skyway. It appears to be one of the Bridgestone manufactured models with the bulge formed head tube and the stays that are crimped and spot welded onto the dropouts. It has down tube shifters with full length cable housing and no brake safety levers, so I suspect it's late 1960s to very early 1970s. If so, those may be 26" x 1-3/8" wheels.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
I'm with you. I've got a '70s Bridgestone as my 'townie' bike, and an old NightSun kit that doesn't see much action anymore. Time to start shopping porteur racks
also have old Nightsun lights - still mounted on an old MTB buried in the garage

cost around $180 back in the early 90's - and a current $30 light is probably brighter and runs longer lol

some on this forum are retrofitting LED bulbs etc to old Nightsun lights
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Luxor (the French light company) also made some awesome 2 light setups with hammered, smooth, and wavy surfaces. Some were even integrated with a front rack, in a finish made to match your hammered fenders. A few examples at tontonvelo, post number 14333.
I installed the Luxor 50 double light, with LED retrofits, on my wife's bike. Works great and provides more than enough light. Will post a picture if i ever get enough posts on this site.
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I'm in favor of anything which increases safety and especially visibility to motor vehicle drivers if nothing else. I have seen an older gentleman, who is likely retired, riding in the early morning on my way to work who could benefit from those. He runs a very small light and I don't know if it is the weakness of the light or the angle at which it is set, but it is very difficult to see him until you are almost upon him. In my book you can't be too safe.
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Another popular way to do this in Japan is with a dynamo powered headlight on one side and a torch/flashlight on the other. That’s what I do on my tourer



I also use this setup on my randonneur for rides over 400k that will have substantial night riding. The torch acts as a high beam that I can reach down and switch on for dark fast sections.
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This setup is now dated but was state of the art back in the day! The hub could power one light well under 12 mph but both lights over that speed. PBP proven!

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I have one of those Bridgestone built Skyways in the attic. As I remember the front rack and fender are pretty well integrated. I did some rough measurements and it looked like the "assembly" could be transferred over to another frame and go over 650b x 38 tires. The front rack struts are sized for a touring fork with 2 braze-ons so a leg extension, clamp or other trickery will be needed.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...et-skyway.html

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Originally Posted by TugaDude
I'm in favor of anything which increases safety and especially visibility to motor vehicle drivers if nothing else.
Well, if we're going to be realistic about this, we should acknowledge that most modern battery-operated modern LED bike lights - not the cheapos, mind - will absolutely crush the lumens that these two C&V lights can put out,

Same for a modern LED w/standlight powered by a 6V AC bike hub (and doesn't require recharging batteries).

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I'm sure there's a way to retro fit those lights with LEDs to get more out of them.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Japanese city bikes could get pretty elaborate.


From this page: Vintage Japanese
must be for the owners of those independent trucks seen in Japan with a forest of marker lights.
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Originally Posted by bark_eater
I'm sure there's a way to retro fit those lights with LEDs to get more out of them.
I think our buddy Anton Tutter (sp?), a.k.a. Velo Lumiino, has retrofitted modern LED light guts into older housings in order to maintain the general appearance of vintage lights while getting modern performance.

I've been tinkering with actually coming up with a replacement for a flange mount bulb that would have two LEDs mounted to a copper heat sink. The intent is to still use the original optics, reflector, etc. without the poor efficiency of an incandescent bulb.
Last January, I did get a start by mounting a little 3mm x 3mm LED to a suitably sized copper plate....
(the master link is there to provide a sense of scale)



I was able to attach some 30 gauge wires and clamp it to some aluminum for a heatsink...



At 400mA, it does generate a fair bit of light!
Note that the intended design has two such LEDs mounted back to back, each one radiating in a hemispherical pattern.




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