A Dollar Per Mile
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Thanks for the advice, I guess a dollar a mile is a little bit far fetched. It does seem, to me, like 3500 miles is very far away though. As for now lets just say I've set that goal for myself instead of the dollar per mile. That once I hit 3,500 miles ill be able to get myself a 3500 bike.
As for adding the 1250.00 to the price, I thought about it and was afraid one of you would come out with it... I dont think I have as much patience for that but I will decide that once the time gets closer.
Now as for the bikes! Cannondale or FELT?
As for adding the 1250.00 to the price, I thought about it and was afraid one of you would come out with it... I dont think I have as much patience for that but I will decide that once the time gets closer.
Now as for the bikes! Cannondale or FELT?
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Hey guys,
I've been riding for about a month now and already itching for a new bike since i've learned tons in this forum about bicycles, components and everything related. I've decided to come up with a new system that hope makes riding a bicycle motivational and satisfying. I am thinking about "putting a dollar in a jar" for every mile I do. For example, so far I have about 200 miles this month which means that I have 200 dollars saved for my next purchase. If I buy something for the bicycle the amount in the jar decreases.
I am thinking about 2 bycicles when I reach the milleage. The Cannondale Supersix Ultegra or the FELT F4. Both carbon with ultegra components and about 4 pounds lighter than my Z85. I think it is a descent step up after 3500 miles.
What do you guys think?
Luis
I've been riding for about a month now and already itching for a new bike since i've learned tons in this forum about bicycles, components and everything related. I've decided to come up with a new system that hope makes riding a bicycle motivational and satisfying. I am thinking about "putting a dollar in a jar" for every mile I do. For example, so far I have about 200 miles this month which means that I have 200 dollars saved for my next purchase. If I buy something for the bicycle the amount in the jar decreases.
I am thinking about 2 bycicles when I reach the milleage. The Cannondale Supersix Ultegra or the FELT F4. Both carbon with ultegra components and about 4 pounds lighter than my Z85. I think it is a descent step up after 3500 miles.
What do you guys think?
Luis
It would be nice to be experienced and sure of what you like before spending big money on a bike (2nd hand selling it will be a big financial loss). You might decide you prefer woods and get a tracking bike, or a MTB, who knows?
I'd meet other bikers, try different bikes. Perhaps even join a club and RIDE. Then, after a year, decide.
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If you want to be logical about it, the way I look at it is 50 cents per mile for miles I'd otherwise be driving. Fun rides or training miles don't count - unless there was something more expensive that I'd honestly be doing with all those hours, if I didn't bike. Then whatever is in excess of what I spent on the bike plus tires, chains etc is tallied up as extra, or mad money.
If I was trying to build incentive for riding I'd also subtract 50 cents for every mile I drove a car, and then apply maybe half of what's left to the new bike fund (since I want to come out ahead, not break even). So: 50 cents per mile up to the cost of current bike plus consumables, minus 50 cents per mile driven, and then 25 cents per mile for utility and commuting rides, and organized events and races (if I raced).
If I was trying to build incentive for riding I'd also subtract 50 cents for every mile I drove a car, and then apply maybe half of what's left to the new bike fund (since I want to come out ahead, not break even). So: 50 cents per mile up to the cost of current bike plus consumables, minus 50 cents per mile driven, and then 25 cents per mile for utility and commuting rides, and organized events and races (if I raced).
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Riding for a month, haven't even worn out a cassette, and you already want a new bike? I don't think you have a clue what cycling is actually about.
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This is a dumb idea.
Just ride your bike.
When you break it, get a new one.
If you want to get a new one before you break the old one, go for it.
If you need more money, work more or get a higher paying job or cut back on other expenses.
Just ride your bike.
When you break it, get a new one.
If you want to get a new one before you break the old one, go for it.
If you need more money, work more or get a higher paying job or cut back on other expenses.
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I'm sure I dont. Everybody learns at their own pace. I understand my complete lack of knowledge due to my time being on a bicycle. It is good to dream every now and then though. For all I care I could go buy it tomorrow and wouldnt have to explain myself to anybody. I am just trying to ride more and make it fun with a sense of extra reward.
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I do think people have a very harding time understanding others. If it isnt what they think is right then it must be wrong. NOPE I do not think its a crappy idea but I do not think yours is crappy either. I respect your opinion but I consider mine to be valid as well.
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I'm sure I dont. Everybody learns at their own pace. I understand my complete lack of knowledge due to my time being on a bicycle. It is good to dream every now and then though. For all I care I could go buy it tomorrow and wouldnt have to explain myself to anybody. I am just trying to ride more and make it fun with a sense of extra reward.
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True. I did however believe that 3,500 miles is pretty good though. Well thank you for pointing it out.
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it's about 2 bucks/ride for me. buck/mile would break me.
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Hey guys,
I've been riding for about a month now and already itching for a new bike since i've learned tons in this forum about bicycles, components and everything related. I've decided to come up with a new system that hope makes riding a bicycle motivational and satisfying. I am thinking about "putting a dollar in a jar" for every mile I do. For example, so far I have about 200 miles this month which means that I have 200 dollars saved for my next purchase. If I buy something for the bicycle the amount in the jar decreases.
I am thinking about 2 bycicles when I reach the milleage. The Cannondale Supersix Ultegra or the FELT F4. Both carbon with ultegra components and about 4 pounds lighter than my Z85. I think it is a descent step up after 3500 miles.
What do you guys think?
Luis
I've been riding for about a month now and already itching for a new bike since i've learned tons in this forum about bicycles, components and everything related. I've decided to come up with a new system that hope makes riding a bicycle motivational and satisfying. I am thinking about "putting a dollar in a jar" for every mile I do. For example, so far I have about 200 miles this month which means that I have 200 dollars saved for my next purchase. If I buy something for the bicycle the amount in the jar decreases.
I am thinking about 2 bycicles when I reach the milleage. The Cannondale Supersix Ultegra or the FELT F4. Both carbon with ultegra components and about 4 pounds lighter than my Z85. I think it is a descent step up after 3500 miles.
What do you guys think?
Luis
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Do you really expect us to spend the next 2 years discussing that topic with you? Particularly when you still have no clue about bikes?
Stop obsessing over stuff, and just Ride Your Bike. It's an excellent bike -- it's better than what the top pros were using about 10 years ago. It can do everything you need it to do, and more, for 10 or 20 years. Ride it into the ground, and get enjoyment from actually cycling rather than buying stuff.
Stop obsessing over stuff, and just Ride Your Bike. It's an excellent bike -- it's better than what the top pros were using about 10 years ago. It can do everything you need it to do, and more, for 10 or 20 years. Ride it into the ground, and get enjoyment from actually cycling rather than buying stuff.
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Do you really expect us to spend the next 2 years discussing that topic with you? Particularly when you still have no clue about bikes?
Stop obsessing over stuff, and just Ride Your Bike. It's an excellent bike -- it's better than what the top pros were using about 10 years ago. It can do everything you need it to do, and more, for 10 or 20 years. Ride it into the ground, and get enjoyment from actually cycling rather than buying stuff.
Stop obsessing over stuff, and just Ride Your Bike. It's an excellent bike -- it's better than what the top pros were using about 10 years ago. It can do everything you need it to do, and more, for 10 or 20 years. Ride it into the ground, and get enjoyment from actually cycling rather than buying stuff.
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If everyone around here budgeted $1/mile ridden annually to their next bike, I'd buy Huffy stock.
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Cool, whatever it takes.
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Gotta say I am pretty happy with my bike and I am giving it all I can. Im trying to do 80 to 100 miles per week. Today went with a pretty good cyclist and did a good 17.7 miles in 1:27. The average riding speed was 13.6mph and almost 1300 feet climb. Gotta say its a tough sport and i know he was taking it easy on me. I am happy to be giving all I have. Now ive upped the mileage to 5000 miles or 1.5 years before getting my next bike. I do appreciate the feedback guys. Puts riding on a different perspective since I really have no clue.
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I think it's a good plan as well. For many of us, getting new equipment, the latest technology, the things to make us faster, etc. is as much of the enjoyment as the exercise, competition, and setting/achieving performance goals.
Using a new bike to motivate you to ride is fine if that's what it takes to get you out. Not everybody can go out and push themselves just for the sake of riding. You'll also see improvements in your pace and distance, which should keep you coming back as well.
There's also a couple of other benefits to your plan - you end up paying cash for the bike and you have time to look at everything that interests you, and even test ride lots of bikes.
Good luck.
Using a new bike to motivate you to ride is fine if that's what it takes to get you out. Not everybody can go out and push themselves just for the sake of riding. You'll also see improvements in your pace and distance, which should keep you coming back as well.
There's also a couple of other benefits to your plan - you end up paying cash for the bike and you have time to look at everything that interests you, and even test ride lots of bikes.
Good luck.
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I think it's a good plan as well. For many of us, getting new equipment, the latest technology, the things to make us faster, etc. is as much of the enjoyment as the exercise, competition, and setting/achieving performance goals.
Using a new bike to motivate you to ride is fine if that's what it takes to get you out. Not everybody can go out and push themselves just for the sake of riding. You'll also see improvements in your pace and distance, which should keep you coming back as well.
There's also a couple of other benefits to your plan - you end up paying cash for the bike and you have time to look at everything that interests you, and even test ride lots of bikes.
Good luck.
Using a new bike to motivate you to ride is fine if that's what it takes to get you out. Not everybody can go out and push themselves just for the sake of riding. You'll also see improvements in your pace and distance, which should keep you coming back as well.
There's also a couple of other benefits to your plan - you end up paying cash for the bike and you have time to look at everything that interests you, and even test ride lots of bikes.
Good luck.
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You seem to have more $ than sense. People buy used bikes on craigslist to see if they are going to like biking, not $1200 bikes. That Felt is a great bike and you won't be any faster on a $3500 bike. If you could do a blind riding test, you probably couldn't tell the difference between the two bikes. You will take a big loss if you try to sell the Z85. Bikes, like cars, lose a lot of value once you drive them off the lot.
There are so many things you can do to become a better rider that don't involve a new bike. Read about training. Keep riding and when you are fast enough and have enough cycling skills, find a group to ride with.
Kudos to saving money for buying new toys, though.
There are so many things you can do to become a better rider that don't involve a new bike. Read about training. Keep riding and when you are fast enough and have enough cycling skills, find a group to ride with.
Kudos to saving money for buying new toys, though.
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I think what people are trying to say here is that you should enjoy what you have.
What comes next, and what you should be focused on, is building strength and endurance. The buying of a bike is like a temporary high, the thing that will bind you to the sport is more about your body. If you do this, and are even a little serious about it, a day will come where you feel that you would benefit from making the next step and going for better gear. It will be something driven by need and through a natural progression of you as a cyclist and an athlete (be enthusiastic about that prospect), and not so much by you just wanting to get a new toy. The latter is no sin by the way, we are all guilty of this. Most of us try to keep it in check, or cant afford to indulge ourselves though.
One other thing you should not underestimate is the price of good gear. I do not know what you own, but it is possible that within the year you will still buy 50 euros worth of tools, 100 euros worth of bibs (likely more), if you ride through winter you will spend another 150 on tights, gloves, caps, base layers and what not. I recently helped a friend buying the basic necessities, and was surprised about how much money you are looking at if you include everything from floorpump with pressure meter to spare tubes. At this point your gear may do more for your comfort and how much you enjoy riding than swapping bikes.
What comes next, and what you should be focused on, is building strength and endurance. The buying of a bike is like a temporary high, the thing that will bind you to the sport is more about your body. If you do this, and are even a little serious about it, a day will come where you feel that you would benefit from making the next step and going for better gear. It will be something driven by need and through a natural progression of you as a cyclist and an athlete (be enthusiastic about that prospect), and not so much by you just wanting to get a new toy. The latter is no sin by the way, we are all guilty of this. Most of us try to keep it in check, or cant afford to indulge ourselves though.
One other thing you should not underestimate is the price of good gear. I do not know what you own, but it is possible that within the year you will still buy 50 euros worth of tools, 100 euros worth of bibs (likely more), if you ride through winter you will spend another 150 on tights, gloves, caps, base layers and what not. I recently helped a friend buying the basic necessities, and was surprised about how much money you are looking at if you include everything from floorpump with pressure meter to spare tubes. At this point your gear may do more for your comfort and how much you enjoy riding than swapping bikes.
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Gotta say I am pretty happy with my bike and I am giving it all I can. Im trying to do 80 to 100 miles per week. Today went with a pretty good cyclist and did a good 17.7 miles in 1:27. The average riding speed was 13.6mph and almost 1300 feet climb. Gotta say its a tough sport and i know he was taking it easy on me. I am happy to be giving all I have. Now ive upped the mileage to 5000 miles or 1.5 years before getting my next bike. I do appreciate the feedback guys. Puts riding on a different perspective since I really have no clue.