Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Advocacy & Safety
Reload this Page >

Confronting distracted driver

Search
Notices
Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

Confronting distracted driver

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-28-24, 08:33 PM
  #1  
LarrySellerz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,995
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2700 Post(s)
Liked 486 Times in 351 Posts
Confronting distracted driver

A few weeks ago on my commute I was buzzed by a car who was going too fast (we were getting to an intersection) and didn’t give me enough space. It wasn’t a close call, but very unnecessary from the car, they just weren’t paying attention. I pull up on the driver, and it’s a young woman holding her phone out in front of her like she’s FaceTiming.

today, a Tesla brake checked me, and as I went around I saw the woman on her phone.

Maybe 6 months ago, I actually confronted one of the teslas who blew by me. I caught up to them at a red light, and banged on their window. The woman in the car got freaked out, and didn’t know what I was doing, and later I felt kind of bad because I’m a huge guy and wasn’t wearing a shirt, so she was afraid and thought I was crazy.

Have any of you confronted distracted drivers? Drivers on their phones are such a hazard. Is there a way to do it right?

Last edited by LarrySellerz; 02-29-24 at 01:05 AM.
LarrySellerz is offline  
Likes For LarrySellerz:
Old 02-28-24, 08:49 PM
  #2  
Lucillle
Lucille
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 449
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 133 Post(s)
Liked 65 Times in 35 Posts
Physical confrontations can get you shot.
Lucillle is offline  
Likes For Lucillle:
Old 02-28-24, 09:21 PM
  #3  
NVFlinch 
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Liked 94 Times in 40 Posts
I was passed in an intersection on the right by a pickup, and managed to chase him down. I explained that my wife would like me to come home on the bike, and not in a box. He actually was very appologetic, as he was driving a company truck, and things worked well. Ya, you might get shot - he might have been carrying a gun...but so was I.
NVFlinch is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 09:25 PM
  #4  
rsbob 
Grupetto Bob
 
rsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,226

Bikes: Bikey McBike Face

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2585 Post(s)
Liked 5,646 Times in 2,924 Posts
Just remember that if you upset the wrong person, (edit: even if you are in the right) they are driving a lethal weapon.

No matter how irritating or dangerous a driver’s behavior, I never engage - even wearing a shirt.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾‍♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾‍♂️







rsbob is offline  
Likes For rsbob:
Old 02-28-24, 09:33 PM
  #5  
tomato coupe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,954

Bikes: Colnago, Van Dessel, Factor, Cervelo, Ritchey

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3956 Post(s)
Liked 7,304 Times in 2,949 Posts
If you're not going to wear a shirt, you should write "I'm not dangerous" on your chest with lipstick. That will put women at ease when you approach them.
tomato coupe is offline  
Likes For tomato coupe:
Old 02-28-24, 09:45 PM
  #6  
ScottCommutes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 571
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 366 Post(s)
Liked 273 Times in 175 Posts
i try to avoid all verbal confrontations, except for friendly ones.

I do feel that I can shame certain drivers just by looking over at them a little extra. Obviously, this doesn't really work for drivers that are coming up from behind.
ScottCommutes is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 09:48 PM
  #7  
mschwett 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,039

Bikes: addict, aethos, creo, vanmoof, sirrus, public ...

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1279 Post(s)
Liked 1,393 Times in 711 Posts
i have knocked on a few windows of drivers who did really dangerous things. typically i try and be very polite, like “hey, please be more careful. me and my kids are out here on bikes, and you just totally blew that red light / stop sign / didn’t yield / swerved into the bike lane / etc.”

i would not do this without an exit strategy, and certainly not someone who was aggressively dangerous, more like inattentively dangerous.
__________________
mschwett is offline  
Likes For mschwett:
Old 02-28-24, 09:52 PM
  #8  
Desert Ryder
Henderson, NV
 
Desert Ryder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Henderson/Las Vegas NV
Posts: 533

Bikes: Trek Alpha 3700, GT STS DH, Raleigh Grand Prix, Fisher Montare, Fisher CR-7, Fisher Aquila, Diamondback Sorrento, The Bike Beat Revolution, KHS XC 504R

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 322 Post(s)
Liked 596 Times in 288 Posts
Originally Posted by NVFlinch
I was passed in an intersection on the right by a pickup, and managed to chase him down. I explained that my wife would like me to come home on the bike, and not in a box. He actually was very appologetic, as he was driving a company truck, and things worked well. Ya, you might get shot - he might have been carrying a gun...but so was I.
I wouldn't confront, or engage in conversation, a driver of a motor vehicle. I would mutter to myself my personal opinion and continue riding.

I'm gonna guess and presume the NV in your user name is Nevada? Las Vegas/Henderson here.
Just an FYI...I believe carrying is frowned on by many here. I approve as I do also
Desert Ryder is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 10:12 PM
  #9  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,223

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,245 Times in 623 Posts
I Once put Gatoraide all over a drivers Pickup Truck Windshield as they were stopped at a Red Light.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 10:36 PM
  #10  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Far beyond the pale horizon.
Posts: 14,278
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4260 Post(s)
Liked 1,364 Times in 945 Posts
Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Maybe 6 months ago, I actually confronted one of the teslas who blew by me. I caught up to them at a red light, and banged on their window. The woman in the car got freaked out, and didn’t know what I was doing, and later I felt kind of bad because I’m a huge guy and wasn’t wearing a shirt, so she was afraid and thought I was crazy.
What has the world come to, when talking to a stranger becomes a social faux pas?
​​​​​​​
njkayaker is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 10:52 PM
  #11  
LarrySellerz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,995
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2700 Post(s)
Liked 486 Times in 351 Posts
Originally Posted by Lucillle
Physical confrontations can get you shot.
life is too short to be worried about things like this, imo, not that you are wrong
LarrySellerz is offline  
Old 02-28-24, 10:54 PM
  #12  
TakingMyTime
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Los Alamitos, Calif.
Posts: 2,475

Bikes: Canyon Endurace

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1041 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times in 541 Posts
Everyone is on their phones.
On one of my morning rides (rush hour) as I pull up or slow down for a red light I'd say that about 80% of the people I glide by are using their phones. It's inevitable.

But to answer your question... yes, I have confronted a driver before. I'm usually not too happy with myself after it's over but it is what it is.
TakingMyTime is offline  
Likes For TakingMyTime:
Old 02-28-24, 11:04 PM
  #13  
CAT7RDR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hacienda Hgts
Posts: 2,109

Bikes: 1999 Schwinn Peloton Ultegra 10, Kestrel RT-1000 Ultegra, Trek Marlin 6 Deore 29'er

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 822 Post(s)
Liked 1,961 Times in 944 Posts
Take care of yourself Larry.
Skin cancer is no joke going shirtless.
I'm getting a half-dollar sized growth removed next week from my left leg.
CAT7RDR is offline  
Likes For CAT7RDR:
Old 02-28-24, 11:09 PM
  #14  
flangehead
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 895

Bikes: 2017 Co-op ADV 1.1; ~1991 Novara Arriba; 1990 Fuji Palisade; mid-90's Moots Tandem; 1985 Performance Superbe

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 390 Post(s)
Liked 572 Times in 332 Posts
I’m not going to change anyone’s thinking in 1 minute on the road. I just tell them to have a nice day.

However, as I was stopped at a traffic light in the right lane a motorist pulled up next to me and interrupted her phone call to tell me she had a friend get hurt riding. I yielded to temptation and mentioned rthat she should not drive distracted.

I’m sure my comment had no effect whatsoever.
flangehead is offline  
Likes For flangehead:
Old 02-28-24, 11:34 PM
  #15  
SurferRosa
señor miembro
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,625

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3890 Post(s)
Liked 6,488 Times in 3,211 Posts
Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I’m a huge guy and wasn’t wearing a shirt, so she was afraid.
Gross.
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 02-29-24, 12:03 AM
  #16  
rsbob 
Grupetto Bob
 
rsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,226

Bikes: Bikey McBike Face

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2585 Post(s)
Liked 5,646 Times in 2,924 Posts
Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
. I’m a huge guy and wasn’t wearing a shirt, so she was afraid and thought I was crazy.
Hell, I would be afraid too.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾‍♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾‍♂️







rsbob is offline  
Likes For rsbob:
Old 02-29-24, 12:21 AM
  #17  
Camilo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,763
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked 1,200 Times in 760 Posts
I used to yell, give the finger, bang on hoods, etc. but gave all that stuff up years ago. Now, I just expect that a very small minority of drivers won't be perfect- some inadvertently, some maliciously. So what, I'm not perfect either. I just drive predictably and defensively. If some jerk yells or honks just because they don't like bicyclists on the road, I try to make a very friendly wave to mess with them - or maybe if I'm stationary, hold my hand cupped to my ear as if I want them to yell louder because I can't hear them.
Camilo is offline  
Likes For Camilo:
Old 02-29-24, 12:29 AM
  #18  
calamarichris
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 6,434

Bikes: '09 Felt F55, '84 Masi Cran Criterium, (2)'86 Schwinn Pelotons, '86 Look Equippe Hinault, '09 Globe Live 3 (dogtaxi), '94 Greg Lemond, '99 GT Pulse Kinesis

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Liked 270 Times in 153 Posts
If you catch up to them at a stoplight, here are two pretty good options IMO:
~Whip out your phone and take a picture of them. People tend to get self-conscious being filmed while breaking the law.
~If you have sunblock on your arms, rub your left elbow on their rearview mirror. (I've done this twice and it was most satisfying; that paste sunscreen is a complete PITA to clean off.)

As for all this concern about getting shot, if they've got their phone in their hand, you'll probably have time enough to evade. (Texas, Saharizona, and Floriduh excluded, as they're probably driving with their gun in their non-phone hand.)

Edit: Also, as long as we're fantasizing about worst-case scenarios, their sentence for shooting an unarmed cyclist will be a lot harsher than if they run you down while texting. (Whoopsie. Accidents will happen.. Please don't do that again.)

Last edited by calamarichris; 02-29-24 at 01:12 AM.
calamarichris is offline  
Old 02-29-24, 01:09 AM
  #19  
LarrySellerz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,995
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2700 Post(s)
Liked 486 Times in 351 Posts
Originally Posted by CAT7RDR
Take care of yourself Larry.
Skin cancer is no joke going shirtless.
I'm getting a half-dollar sized growth removed next week from my left leg.
unfortunately, I never let my prefrontal cortex develop, so I’m literally unable to conceptualize future concepts. I can’t think about future.
LarrySellerz is offline  
Old 02-29-24, 02:39 AM
  #20  
Yan 
Senior Member
 
Yan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,945
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1964 Post(s)
Liked 647 Times in 443 Posts
Yeah I don't think so.

In a normal country if you get into a confrontation, the worst that could happen is someone gets knocked out. In the sh*thole that is America, where every nut job can legally buy a gun in 10 minutes, getting into a confrontation can get you instantly killed.

Didn't you read the news about the Kansas City football parade shooting, where the guys got into a shootout because one of them was "looking at" the other?

This is the sh*thole society that we live in.
Yan is offline  
Likes For Yan:
Old 02-29-24, 05:03 AM
  #21  
Jughed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Eastern Shore MD
Posts: 884

Bikes: Lemond Zurich/Trek ALR/Giant TCX/Sette CX1

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 570 Post(s)
Liked 773 Times in 404 Posts
I find that poking people in the eyeballs sends the best message.
Jughed is online now  
Old 02-29-24, 05:05 AM
  #22  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,253
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18424 Post(s)
Liked 15,573 Times in 7,336 Posts
I have to wonder if this the idea for this story came from a current thread in A&S.

In any event, that’s where it belongs.
indyfabz is online now  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 02-29-24, 07:42 AM
  #23  
Troul 
Senior Member
 
Troul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Mich
Posts: 7,395

Bikes: RSO E-tire dropper fixie brifter

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 2,979 Times in 1,920 Posts
Originally Posted by rsbob
Just remember that if you upset the wrong person, (edit: even if you are in the right) they are driving a lethal weapon.

No matter how irritating or dangerous a driver’s behavior, I never engage - even wearing a shirt.
x2
butttt... i haven't tried wearing chaps without a shirt...
__________________
-Oh Hey!
Troul is offline  
Likes For Troul:
Old 02-29-24, 07:43 AM
  #24  
Lucillle
Lucille
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 449
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 133 Post(s)
Liked 65 Times in 35 Posts
"life is too short to be worried about things like this, imo, not that you are wrong"
'


It might be far shorter than you expected if you don't at least take the possibility of being hurt during a confrontation into consideration.

Last edited by Lucillle; 02-29-24 at 07:46 AM.
Lucillle is offline  
Likes For Lucillle:
Old 02-29-24, 07:43 AM
  #25  
JW Fas
Cop Magnet
 
JW Fas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 331
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 240 Post(s)
Liked 276 Times in 128 Posts
If I spot someone texting at a light, I'll give them a reminder to not hold up the people behind them.

JW Fas is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.