Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

It Worked! (Another Seized Seatpost Thread)

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

It Worked! (Another Seized Seatpost Thread)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-20-21, 04:08 PM
  #1  
Classtime 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,704

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1949 Post(s)
Liked 2,010 Times in 1,109 Posts
It Worked! (Another Seized Seatpost Thread)

I knew the seatpost was stuck and I bought the bike anyway. After two weeks of PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, wack’n with a hammer, ammonia, and promising myself to only hacksaw for two hours per day for as many days as it takes—I built this copy of a tool invented by a BF member (can’t find his thread).


Happy Holidays!
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Classtime is offline  
Likes For Classtime:
Old 12-20-21, 05:19 PM
  #2  
Velo Mule
Senior Member
 
Velo Mule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,109

Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 809 Post(s)
Liked 1,023 Times in 665 Posts
Wow, patience, engineering, building, more patience. What does the bike look like?

How doe the tool work?
Velo Mule is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 05:20 PM
  #3  
smontanaro 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,093

Bikes: many

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,392 Times in 760 Posts
I take it the saddle fits in the rectangular space and you use the bike frame as a "wrench" while holding the tool stable (against wall, tool bench, etc)?
__________________
Monti Special
smontanaro is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 05:30 PM
  #4  
Elvis_Presley
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 18
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 4 Posts
I have a giant adjustable wrench. I take the seat

off, hold the frame between my legs and twist. I've put a pipe on the adjustable wrench before. Still, It doesn't always work.
Elvis_Presley is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 05:39 PM
  #5  
jiangshi
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,941
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 514 Post(s)
Liked 270 Times in 172 Posts
I've always used a crook in a tree. There are trees where I live.
jiangshi is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 05:45 PM
  #6  
Classtime 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,704

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1949 Post(s)
Liked 2,010 Times in 1,109 Posts
Put the saddle in the slot, stand on the tool, and twist the bike. There are two more cross pieces near the ends. The 2X4s are 8 feet long because.


On Topic & Eroica Compliant Ironman

Last edited by Classtime; 12-20-21 at 05:47 PM. Reason: Add pic
Classtime is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 06:04 PM
  #7  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,829 Times in 1,995 Posts
Worked so hard that the seat cover got torn off.
I just recovered a saddle today.
how harmonic.
repechage is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 07:15 PM
  #8  
Classtime 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,704

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1949 Post(s)
Liked 2,010 Times in 1,109 Posts
Originally Posted by repechage
Worked so hard that the seat cover got torn off.
I just recovered a saddle today.
how harmonic.
That was a sacrificial saddle that didn't take too much of a beating. The Hinault Turbo that came with the bike is OK.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Classtime is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 07:58 PM
  #9  
nomadmax 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 2,397
Mentioned: 93 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1104 Post(s)
Liked 1,825 Times in 878 Posts
Flutes and cut out sections are just BEGGING to stick a seat post when they aren't north of the seat lug clamp. The old "French Fit" You won Classtime, bravo!
__________________
nomadmax is offline  
Old 12-20-21, 08:12 PM
  #10  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 23,525

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1236 Post(s)
Liked 964 Times in 628 Posts
Just a warning to others looking at trying this method, you can damage the frame twisting it. I bent a frame doing a similar method to this, replace lumber with a sturdy workbench and a big vise. Glad it worked here!
wrk101 is offline  
Likes For wrk101:
Old 12-20-21, 08:24 PM
  #11  
BFisher
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,321
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 767 Post(s)
Liked 1,898 Times in 889 Posts
Quite a worthy save. Way to go!
BFisher is offline  
Old 12-21-21, 03:57 PM
  #12  
jonwvara 
Senior Member
 
jonwvara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Posts: 3,778

Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record

Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 765 Post(s)
Liked 660 Times in 351 Posts
Originally Posted by jiangshi
I've always used a crook in a tree. There are trees where I live.
Yeah, I use a big yellow birch out in the woods near my house. There's always a chance of wrecking the frame in the process. But I've been careful enough--or, let's be honest, lucky enough--enough to avoid that outcome so far.
__________________
www.redclovercomponents.com

"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long."
--Ogden Nash
jonwvara is offline  
Old 12-21-21, 04:20 PM
  #13  
smontanaro 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,093

Bikes: many

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1444 Post(s)
Liked 1,392 Times in 760 Posts
So jiangshi & jonwvara do you cut down the tree and mill it into lumber to make the tool Classtime showed?
__________________
Monti Special
smontanaro is offline  
Likes For smontanaro:
Old 12-21-21, 06:51 PM
  #14  
jonwvara 
Senior Member
 
jonwvara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Washington County, Vermont, USA
Posts: 3,778

Bikes: 1966 Dawes Double Blue, 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1975 Raleigh Sprite 27, 1980 Univega Viva Sport, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1984 Lotus Classique, 1976 Motobecane Grand Record

Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 765 Post(s)
Liked 660 Times in 351 Posts
Originally Posted by smontanaro
So jiangshi & jonwvara do you cut down the tree and mill it into lumber to make the tool Classtime showed?
Funnily enough, we have a logging job going on at our place now. A lot of ash and soft maple has gone out, and some yellow birch. But the particular tree I always use doesn't have a merchantable log in it, so it's off the hook--all it has to do is stay there, make shade, and wait for me to show up with a bike every few years. Nice work if you can get it.
__________________
www.redclovercomponents.com

"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long."
--Ogden Nash
jonwvara is offline  
Old 12-21-21, 07:07 PM
  #15  
Feldman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,177
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked 71 Times in 51 Posts
Anyone ever try Coke Classic down the seat tube? Inverted of course.
Feldman is offline  
Old 12-22-21, 10:27 PM
  #16  
jdawginsc 
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,807

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2439 Post(s)
Liked 3,128 Times in 1,967 Posts
That would be my invention...! I used 2x6

glad it worked for you. Key is in trying all sorts of penetrating oil, but AlO2 is largely undissolvable I guess. I also place the sacrificial saddle under two boards once cracked to hold the seat as I lift and twist up.

Second key is making sure the plane of the twist is perfectly perpendicular to the seat tube, or you can torque the seattube.

I am 3 for 3 so far with the tool.





Originally Posted by Classtime
I knew the seatpost was stuck and I bought the bike anyway. After two weeks of PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, wack’n with a hammer, ammonia, and promising myself to only hacksaw for two hours per day for as many days as it takes—I built this copy of a tool invented by a BF member (can’t find his thread).


Happy Holidays!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super












jdawginsc is online now  
Old 12-23-21, 06:28 AM
  #17  
sd5782 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo Ohio
Posts: 1,495

Bikes: 1964 Huffy Sportsman, 1972 Fuji Newest, 1973 Schwinn Super Sport (3), 1982 Trek 412, 1983 Trek 700, 1989 Miyata 1000LT, 1991 Bianchi Boardwalk, plus others

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 583 Post(s)
Liked 698 Times in 393 Posts
Actually

Originally Posted by Feldman
Anyone ever try Coke Classic down the seat tube? Inverted of course.
Actually I was going to purchase a used 85 Torpedo from someone but found a stuck seat post. I declined after pointing that out. The older gentleman bike collector and his son in law worked on it and months later the post was out. A bit of damage from a big wrench. They said they used the Coke in the seat tube. I did wind up purchasing the bike.
sd5782 is offline  
Old 12-23-21, 07:35 AM
  #18  
Classtime 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,704

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1949 Post(s)
Liked 2,010 Times in 1,109 Posts
Bliliant IMO jdawginsc
My workbench is a heavy mofo and the last time I clamped a seized SP in the vise, twisting the frame moved my bench. (Had to hacksaw that post.)
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Classtime is offline  
Likes For Classtime:
Old 12-23-21, 07:53 AM
  #19  
mountaindave 
tantum vehi
 
mountaindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Flathead Valley, MT
Posts: 4,440

Bikes: More than I care to admit

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1167 Post(s)
Liked 992 Times in 491 Posts
RJ the bike guy has a number of videos on how to remove a stick seat post, but this brings out my inner Tim Taylor:

Total loss of the seat post, but less dangerous than brute force twisting.

Glad it all worked out for you.
mountaindave is offline  
Old 12-23-21, 08:54 AM
  #20  
jdawginsc 
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,807

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2439 Post(s)
Liked 3,128 Times in 1,967 Posts
Originally Posted by mountaindave
RJ the bike guy has a number of videos on how to remove a stick seat post, but this brings out my inner Tim Taylor: https://youtu.be/P-YpmDx86d0

Total loss of the seat post, but less dangerous than brute force twisting.

Glad it all worked out for you.
One of my favorite RJs. He went to elaborate lengths!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super












jdawginsc is online now  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.