What are the biggest wastes of money in biking?
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1. Serious cyclists all ride carbon frames.
2. People that ride steel frames aren't serious cyclists.
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There is no mechanism that would cause a properly built wheel to go out of true (outside of damage or abuse).
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Wrong.
1. A properly built wheel doesn't go out of true.
2. A wheel that goes out of true was not properly built.
Two statements, logically consistent.
And backed up with engineering. There is no mechanism for a wheel to go out of true that isn't damage from an accident or abuse.
1. A properly built wheel doesn't go out of true.
2. A wheel that goes out of true was not properly built.
Two statements, logically consistent.
And backed up with engineering. There is no mechanism for a wheel to go out of true that isn't damage from an accident or abuse.
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It's the same logical fallacy. He's defining "properly built" as never needs truing, which then allows him to state that properly built wheels never need truing. It's no different than:
1. Serious cyclists all ride carbon frames.
2. People that ride steel frames aren't serious cyclists.
1. Serious cyclists all ride carbon frames.
2. People that ride steel frames aren't serious cyclists.
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Terry is correct -- that is NOT a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy. It is a run-of-the-mill tautology.
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Ummmmm, this is whay terrymorse said:
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
That's not the same as saying wheels never need trueing. You either have a reading comprehension problem or you're just trolling.
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
That's not the same as saying wheels never need trueing. You either have a reading comprehension problem or you're just trolling.
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Ummmmm, this is whay terrymorse said:
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
That's not the same as saying wheels never need trueing. You either have a reading comprehension problem or you're just trolling.
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
That's not the same as saying wheels never need trueing. You either have a reading comprehension problem or you're just trolling.
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"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
Maybe you need to re-read both a few times and try again.
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I wouldn't count any of it. The suggestion before was that you need to carry a bigger tool/tube kit with you on a lightweight bike than a mid-level one. Whether I'm riding my 16lb Storck, or a 20lb mid-level road bike, I'm going to bring the same tool/tube kit, the same number of bottles, the same phone, the same snacks, and wear the same shoes/helmet/gloves/glasses. Those things change with the length/location of the ride, and the weather, not the weight or quality of the bike.
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Another:
1. All true bike mechanics build their own frames.
2. A bike mechanic that doesn’t build his / her own frame isn’t a true mechanic.
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I wouldn't count any of it. The suggestion before was that you need to carry a bigger tool/tube kit with you on a lightweight bike than a mid-level one. Whether I'm riding my 16lb Storck, or a 20lb mid-level road bike, I'm going to bring the same tool/tube kit, the same number of bottles, the same phone, the same snacks, and wear the same shoes/helmet/gloves/glasses. Those things change with the length/location of the ride, and the weather, not the weight or quality of the bike.
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We actually have one stork, the Wood Stork, native to USA. If you are lucky enough to see a flock in flight it will make an impression.
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Obviously a reading comprehension problem. Again, terrymorse never said wheels never need trueing. This is what he said:
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
Maybe you need to re-read both a few times and try again.
"If all wheels were built correctly in the first place, there would be no wheels going out of true."
Maybe you need to re-read both a few times and try again.
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I went to their website and they have models which aren't stupid expensive. Don't know if they would qualify as the biggest waste of money in cycling.
I did not see the geometry charts, though. I suppose I could find it somewhere.
The first time I saw a Storck bike was in the early 90s, I think. A guy from Germany brought one over when he moved here and joined our club.
I did not see the geometry charts, though. I suppose I could find it somewhere.
The first time I saw a Storck bike was in the early 90s, I think. A guy from Germany brought one over when he moved here and joined our club.
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