Schrader dirlled rim with persta tube?
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Schrader dirlled rim with persta tube?
Can I use a presta tube with a schrader drilled rim?
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There are ways. Bike Tools Etc. sells these adapters that fit into the Schrader hole and reduce it to presta size:
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...tem_id=WB-PSS1
There are also rubber grommets that do the same job. Check with your LBS.
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...tem_id=WB-PSS1
There are also rubber grommets that do the same job. Check with your LBS.
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Thanks, I'll do that.
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This may be a stupid question but what are the consequences of using the presta valve tube with out reducing the hole size? Can I ride for a day or so till I get an adapter?
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The presta stem can wiggle around in the larger hole and the edges of the hole will press against some unsupported rubber. It's likely to lead to tube failure at the valve base.
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I've used presta tubes on schrader rims without a problem, but, yeah, I guess it could wiggle around and cause a problem. You could probably just poke the presta value through some tape and be fine.
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If you get new tubes it should come with a little nut and a threaded stem. If you get it fairly tight it should keep the stem from moving and flatting from that.
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Sheldon said that threaded stems are there only to pull stems out of the tube and to ruin pump heads.
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Take the rim and a Presta tube to a hardware store. Test fit rubber grommets until you find one that's snug in the rim hole and still allows the valve through. Buy a handfull of'em for a buck. They'll work just fine, probably outlast the tubes.
Sorry - used to know precisely what size (1/4" ?) but memory isn't what I think it used to be...
Sorry - used to know precisely what size (1/4" ?) but memory isn't what I think it used to be...
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I just replaced a tube where the Presta valve stem pulled out of a Shrader-drilled rim. I bit the bullet and bought adapters now. You may get away with it on the front, but I expect the rear will fail eventually. My rear tube lasted a year of occasional riding.
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wrap the stem in duck tape for a day until you get the adaptor
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If I read you correctly that's a big negative. Tightening that nut on the stem can pull the stem into the hole and out of the tube. I have a set of open pros that have a slightly larger inner hole than the outer (for presta) and used to keep getting flats with the stems breaking off the tube until I realized it was that dang nut that I kept tightening down that was causing it. Nuts go in the trash when I put on a new tube now.
Sheldon said that threaded stems are there only to pull stems out of the tube and to ruin pump heads.
Sheldon said that threaded stems are there only to pull stems out of the tube and to ruin pump heads.
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If you use 2 nuts, one under the rim and one on top, you can avoid the issue of pulling the stem too far out and of having the stem wiggle around in the hole. The lower nut will keep the rubber surrounding the stem from coming in contact with the rim. Good rim tape, i.e. Velox, will help too.
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Sure as hell, as soon as you tell someone something is a bad idea, someone else reports no problems and they've done it that way for years.
Another way to protect the valve base is to cut a nickel-size disk out of an old tube, punch a hole in the center and thread it over the presta stem. It acts as a reinforcement for the valve base.
Another way to protect the valve base is to cut a nickel-size disk out of an old tube, punch a hole in the center and thread it over the presta stem. It acts as a reinforcement for the valve base.
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Loose screws web site has the rubber grommets for 60 cents each.
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If you use 2 nuts, one under the rim and one on top, you can avoid the issue of pulling the stem too far out and of having the stem wiggle around in the hole. The lower nut will keep the rubber surrounding the stem from coming in contact with the rim. Good rim tape, i.e. Velox, will help too.
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Biketoolsetc has the grommets but, at $2.80 a pair, $7 shipping and a week of shipping time, they are seriously more expensive than a couple of stem nuts.
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