I dialed it up to 500 Watt
09-15-11, 07:56 AM
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Phil Gaimon had a great flow chart on why you don't want to reveal your power numbers in public.
Essentially it goes something like this:
None of the end points on the flow chart tend to reflect well on the poster.
Essentially it goes something like this:
- if your FTP is lower than others; you're weak and you suck
- if your FTP is high, either you're fat, and you still suck
- or if it's high and you're not fat, then you race stupid given the lack of results with your power.
- or your FTP isn't as high as you claim
None of the end points on the flow chart tend to reflect well on the poster.
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09-15-11, 07:57 AM
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09-15-11, 10:01 AM
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I didn't even know what WKO+ was until just now when I Googled it.
I have no idea how to utilize a PM for the best results. To be honest, I only bought it because I unexpectedly received a corporate bonus that covered the cost. I always knew I wanted one, but never researched how to get the most out of them. I am racing next season for sure, so I figured it was a worthwhile investment.
If you have any tips and/or resources on where I can educate myself on training with power, please don't be afraid to share.
I have no idea how to utilize a PM for the best results. To be honest, I only bought it because I unexpectedly received a corporate bonus that covered the cost. I always knew I wanted one, but never researched how to get the most out of them. I am racing next season for sure, so I figured it was a worthwhile investment.If you have any tips and/or resources on where I can educate myself on training with power, please don't be afraid to share.
09-15-11, 10:14 AM
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Throw the stick!!!!
I downloaded golden cheetah and I didn't care much for it. It could be because I had used WKO+ a couple years earlier and liked it better. Of course, you can always download a free month trial of WKO+ and Golden Cheetah and see if you think it is worth paying for WKO+.
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09-15-11, 10:21 AM
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09-15-11, 11:31 AM
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Throw the stick!!!!
Awesome!!!
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09-15-11, 01:13 PM
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I didn't look but I imagine it was the first minute when I was trying to get up to speed. When I looked down a couple of times in that first minute or so I couldn't believe how high it was, I certainly didn't feel like I was putting out that kind of power. Shortly afterwards the adrenaline wore off and reality set in. 
09-15-11, 07:43 PM
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I suggest that a new user should start with Golden Cheetah, then try WKO+ once he or she has an idea what the numbers and graphs mean. It's pretty easy to run the trial out before understanding everything.
10-05-11, 02:35 PM
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You could always join the infamous Scheldepeloton (I'm sure you know it) and do 500 watt intervals at the front...
10-05-11, 03:39 PM
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I got dropped by a little old lady in a walker this morning... was pretty sure she was on the juice.
10-05-11, 07:19 PM
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10-05-11, 08:05 PM
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Last night it was too nice an evening in TO to go right inside after my commute home, so I rode down the Don Valley MUP to the waterfront and back on the commuter. Fully loaded with all my work kit. Big Dummy plus a loaded small pack is good for 80lbs of bicycle.
One the way back, I picked up a wheelsucker, so I started ramping up the pace. That can only go so hard, as the path isn't conducive to really high speeds and it is hard to get the Dummy really going because the drag is so bad and it doesn't accelerate real well. The Dummy's top speed on a flat is less than 43 km/h....
After I towed this guy for a few km, the path passes though a parking lot so I sat up and moved over to see who was on my wheel. Chick wearing full Cervelo kit on a 2011 S3. Really? I'm towing YOU?
When I dropped in on her wheel, she took off. I thought about chasing, but the dynamic had changed... So I let her go.
Now there's a cool story, bro.
DG
One the way back, I picked up a wheelsucker, so I started ramping up the pace. That can only go so hard, as the path isn't conducive to really high speeds and it is hard to get the Dummy really going because the drag is so bad and it doesn't accelerate real well. The Dummy's top speed on a flat is less than 43 km/h....
After I towed this guy for a few km, the path passes though a parking lot so I sat up and moved over to see who was on my wheel. Chick wearing full Cervelo kit on a 2011 S3. Really? I'm towing YOU?
When I dropped in on her wheel, she took off. I thought about chasing, but the dynamic had changed... So I let her go.
Now there's a cool story, bro.
DG
10-05-11, 08:36 PM
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Last night it was too nice an evening in TO to go right inside after my commute home, so I rode down the Don Valley MUP to the waterfront and back on the commuter. Fully loaded with all my work kit. Big Dummy plus a loaded small pack is good for 80lbs of bicycle.
One the way back, I picked up a wheelsucker, so I started ramping up the pace. That can only go so hard, as the path isn't conducive to really high speeds and it is hard to get the Dummy really going because the drag is so bad and it doesn't accelerate real well. The Dummy's top speed on a flat is less than 43 km/h....
After I towed this guy for a few km, the path passes though a parking lot so I sat up and moved over to see who was on my wheel. Chick wearing full Cervelo kit on a 2011 S3. Really? I'm towing YOU?
When I dropped in on her wheel, she took off. I thought about chasing, but the dynamic had changed... So I let her go.
Now there's a cool story, bro.
DG
One the way back, I picked up a wheelsucker, so I started ramping up the pace. That can only go so hard, as the path isn't conducive to really high speeds and it is hard to get the Dummy really going because the drag is so bad and it doesn't accelerate real well. The Dummy's top speed on a flat is less than 43 km/h....
After I towed this guy for a few km, the path passes though a parking lot so I sat up and moved over to see who was on my wheel. Chick wearing full Cervelo kit on a 2011 S3. Really? I'm towing YOU?
When I dropped in on her wheel, she took off. I thought about chasing, but the dynamic had changed... So I let her go.
Now there's a cool story, bro.
DG
10-05-11, 09:05 PM
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I would have drafted her if it was the last thing I had to do on this earth, FRED POWER
10-05-11, 10:01 PM
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I would have drafted her if it was the last thing I had to do on this earth
Lacking that proof, jumping on her wheel and keeping up with her no matter how hard she went could conceivably be interpreted in a far more sinister fashion.
Terrifying single (as in, "unescorted") women on the MUP really isn't my thing, so I let her go.
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10-05-11, 10:13 PM
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I had a little extra inspiration though, my front tire was going flat and it was raining...I really wanted to get home before it finished going flat.
10-05-11, 10:29 PM
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I only ride with escort women on the MUP. It sucks when I have to pay them though. I will tell you the story of my people.
One day many moons ago, I discovered this group of fixsters that enjoy riding at night every Wed. It felt very good. I was 100 yards back from them, but I enjoy destroying hipstars even on my Trek 7500FX which is sadly no longer in my possessssssion (stolen). I gave a good sprint to try and close down but wasn't enough so it was turbo time, I got my chin to the stem, hands on the sides of the stem and elbows tucked in and mashed my poor little Trek to 30 mph and closed those guys like a supersonic F104 hunting a lame chicken. When I got to them, I passed right away, and the CAT 6 was on. They grabbed my superwide hybrid tires and struggled to hold on. For two kilometers, I was able to maintain 26 mnph by the end and they were dropping left and right like flies, I waved the guy who was drafting me the whole time by, to see if he had enough to kick, when he didn't go, I dug in again and straight walked him when he was out of gas. This is only one of my 1000 watt stories, there are more from when I got my road bike back to University
One day many moons ago, I discovered this group of fixsters that enjoy riding at night every Wed. It felt very good. I was 100 yards back from them, but I enjoy destroying hipstars even on my Trek 7500FX which is sadly no longer in my possessssssion (stolen). I gave a good sprint to try and close down but wasn't enough so it was turbo time, I got my chin to the stem, hands on the sides of the stem and elbows tucked in and mashed my poor little Trek to 30 mph and closed those guys like a supersonic F104 hunting a lame chicken. When I got to them, I passed right away, and the CAT 6 was on. They grabbed my superwide hybrid tires and struggled to hold on. For two kilometers, I was able to maintain 26 mnph by the end and they were dropping left and right like flies, I waved the guy who was drafting me the whole time by, to see if he had enough to kick, when he didn't go, I dug in again and straight walked him when he was out of gas. This is only one of my 1000 watt stories, there are more from when I got my road bike back to University
10-06-11, 04:58 AM
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I turned on all the lights in our house and it wasn't close to 500 watts. We have all compact florescent energy savers.
10-06-11, 09:05 AM
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10-07-11, 03:33 AM
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I don't have a powermeter either.
I simply estimated the incline to be about 2% (using map data) and the tailwind to be about 10km/h (using weather data).
Then I used an online bike power calculator to come at somewhere around 525W ... which kind of corresponds with my perceived excersion effort and my other data.
A bit of hassle but it's accurate enough for me
I simply estimated the incline to be about 2% (using map data) and the tailwind to be about 10km/h (using weather data).
Then I used an online bike power calculator to come at somewhere around 525W ... which kind of corresponds with my perceived excersion effort and my other data.
A bit of hassle but it's accurate enough for me
Algorithms (such as my elite superchono fluid trainer) have little to no accuracy...no matter what algorithm or who made it. The closest would be the new system from Cyclops/Saris which takes a zero based on hr at a given measured power output, then bases power measurement off hr on the road.
Or they are totally realistic and I can do 6.6 w/kg for 2 minutes.
