How much does your bike really weigh?
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How much does your bike really weigh?
ok this is not a troll, but it may start tread on some feels of folks... and thats ok... but seeing some one say this bike weights 13 or 15 or 10 or 9lbs got me thinking.. i dont know any one who can do a decent ride with out a few pounds of water and and some decent peds.. and all that other crap that you carry at ride time.. unless you only strap on a camel back.. and those how their own problems.. so what is the true weight of your bike... including seat pack and water jugs?
me first? fine... Vortex.. about 16lbs before ride.. during ride.. 2lbs of water... i carry my tools in a jersey pouch... so will that count.. ? my peds are durace old school spds.. so.. 1/2 lbs there.. or more...
ok..
mmm.... this might be a bad idea..
me first? fine... Vortex.. about 16lbs before ride.. during ride.. 2lbs of water... i carry my tools in a jersey pouch... so will that count.. ? my peds are durace old school spds.. so.. 1/2 lbs there.. or more...
ok..
mmm.... this might be a bad idea..
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I don't see that anyone has a particular incentive to give a truthful answer.
But mine is 22lbs, plus a rack, tool bag, and two water bottles. So probably about 30lbs.
But mine is 22lbs, plus a rack, tool bag, and two water bottles. So probably about 30lbs.
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Like so many others you are missing the point. By having a standard way of weighing bikes, we can make comparisons. It isn't about the real weight and how it affects riding. It is about relative weight, how that affects riding and what that costs. Your add-ons are your add-ons, and there is no way for me to compare to that. But if your bike in the showroom weighs 2 lb less than mine, that is a disadvantage that I will always have in my setup. No matter how little or much crap I carry, if you do the same, your bike will always be lighter. So we have to start with the basics, what does the BIKE weigh as anyone could buy it, i.e. sans pedals, cages and computer. Then we can compare whatever else we do. And frankly I don't care how much the whole ensemble weighs. I only care what the bike weighs.
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I have no idea, and I don't care. It weighs what it weighs. What I do care about is the fact that it's better looking than yours.
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My aluminum gravel bike was anywhere from 25-30 pounds without all of the extra accessories on it. I bet it's close to 40+ lbs with the loaded frame bag, saddle bag, full bottles, etc. Near Wal Mart bike weight.
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Like so many others you are missing the point. By having a standard way of weighing bikes, we can make comparisons. It isn't about the real weight and how it affects riding. It is about relative weight, how that affects riding and what that costs. Your add-ons are your add-ons, and there is no way for me to compare to that. But if your bike in the showroom weighs 2 lb less than mine, that is a disadvantage that I will always have in my setup. No matter how little or much crap I carry, if you do the same, your bike will always be lighter. So we have to start with the basics, what does the BIKE weigh as anyone could buy it, i.e. sans pedals, cages and computer. Then we can compare whatever else we do. And frankly I don't care how much the whole ensemble weighs. I only care what the bike weighs.
or do you just wish to ignore the simple question posted in the title of the thread? hey thats cool... but i do appreciate those folks who will not spar with the thread and and just post up a simple honest assessment.. even if they wish to counter point with the simple question... im guessing that your bike after you strap on all the STUFF.. is past 15lbs.. but i may be wrong... i did think the question was a simple one thought ... but im pretty sure this will tangent off to some thread lockery kinda kinda tangent discussions... but such as the intertubes,, but it will be interesting to see how soon the lock attached..
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My current "wet" weight (the only weight that matters) of 59cm Swiss Cross + two full 25oz bottles, tool bag, pump, and all accessories, just a hair north of 27lbs. Meaning out of the total rider + bike weight, the RTR bike is 11.5% of the equation. I'd be almost willing to wager most folks (non-touring) fall into the "bike is 10-15% of total weight" area.
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BTW the penman makes a good point about establishing a "baseline" way to compare bike weight, if you are foolish enough to care about such things. No one rides their bike in "showroom" condition but at least this way allows an apples to apples comparison.
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IMHO, the most useful standard is the weight of the bike in a usable condition. So, with pedals and a water bottle cage.
You can argue it should be without pedals, because that's typically the published weights for road bikes(if there is a published weight available) making it a more meaningful standard.
How much water, tools, etc. you carry, doesn't tell you much about the bike, will vary from ride to ride, and even within a ride.
By the ready to ride, pedals, and water bottle cage:
Willier Zero 7, 13.4lbs
Calfee Dragonfly Tandem 24.9lbs
You can argue it should be without pedals, because that's typically the published weights for road bikes(if there is a published weight available) making it a more meaningful standard.
How much water, tools, etc. you carry, doesn't tell you much about the bike, will vary from ride to ride, and even within a ride.
By the ready to ride, pedals, and water bottle cage:
Willier Zero 7, 13.4lbs
Calfee Dragonfly Tandem 24.9lbs
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I honestly don't know. I weigh the frame/forks before I reassemble. I have weighed some drivetrain components before to see the difference between double/triple setups. Other than that, I don't have any idea. I have frames in sizes ranging from 49 to 57cm. Some have racks and other attachments.
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My Guru weighs 17 lbs stock, ride ready weighs 24 lbs, and with me on it weighs 193 lbs.
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ready to ride: w/ pedals, cages, computer, accessories, etc
Road bike 1: 7.0kg
Road bike 2: 8.4kg
CX bike 1: 8.8kg
+liquid: 500g
+bottle of tools, tube, etc: ~350g?
Road bike 1: 7.0kg
Road bike 2: 8.4kg
CX bike 1: 8.8kg
+liquid: 500g
+bottle of tools, tube, etc: ~350g?
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I just weighed my bike a few days ago at 16.9#. I just weighed it with my Garmin, two filled standard water bottles and my tube bag at a fuzz under 21.0#.
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My current "wet" weight (the only weight that matters) of 59cm Swiss Cross + two full 25oz bottles, tool bag, pump, and all accessories, just a hair north of 27lbs. Meaning out of the total rider + bike weight, the RTR bike is 11.5% of the equation. I'd be almost willing to wager most folks (non-touring) fall into the "bike is 10-15% of total weight" area.
I'd argue that the "wet weight" really isn't very useful, unless you want to do something like predict speed given power.
1)Knowing the "wet weight" of a bike doesn't tell me much about the bike, it tells me whether its rider carries a lot of stuff;
2) "Wet weight" is going to constantly vary.
For me, at one extreme, long unsupported training ride, I'm going to carry two, perhaps three, large water bottles, saddle bag with tools, CO2, mini pump, inner tube and patch kit.
That's going to add about 7lbs at the beginning of the ride, and about 1 at the end of the ride.
At the other extreme, 45 minute crit, I'm going to carry no tool bag, and a half filled small bottle adding a few ounces.
So does the bike weigh 13.7lbs or 20.4lbs?
Seems to make more sense to talk about the weight of the bike as the weight of the bike.
And talk about the weight of the crap you lug around as its own category.
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