You're so fit...so has anyone mistaken your age?
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Have you seen the type of lifestyle that some of these longevity experts follow and advocate ?...It's just way too strict, regimented, structured, sheltered, clean and sterile. Unrealistic to follow for majority of people who have to be working out in the real world on daily basis.
Now if you happen to be a Colombian coal miner then it could be a challenge to maintain long term health.
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Sure it is possible to put dogma of internet longevity (and other "health" and "fitness") gurus and salesmen into practice. The success of such practices can be psychic if not physical. Browsing the numerous posts of several BF 55+ posters on the subject provides evidence that the gurus, hucksters, and pitchmen for performance enhancement/heath cures have found a responsive audience among some bicycling enthusiasts. The often emotional defense of such promotions, to include ad hominem arguments against rational and skeptical argument, is evidence of the strength of the appeal to ageing bicycling enthusiasts and self described bicycling "athletes" of obtaining "performance" enhancement and/or a return to youthful appearance through chemicals, dietary supplements, and special dietary and "training" regimens, etc.
The bottom line is true believers will believe and no rational argument can convince them otherwise.
The bottom line is true believers will believe and no rational argument can convince them otherwise.
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Unfortunately, or fortunately, I did a 28 mile personal time trial with a measly 500’ of climbing but managed an average speed of 19.6 MPH out and back. However, there were slow downs due to construction and many 90* turns. I follow the tenants of the Mediterranean diet, good sleep, low stress and working out one way or another 6 days a week (dog walks not included). I am not a former racer or have any genetic advantage over anyone else other than good joints. Since next month I will be 69, I can only attribute yesterday’s average speed to obeying the principals to which you and I agree. Full disclosure, I do take 750 mg of Beta Alanine daily which is far below the recommended daily dosage but don’t see it giving me a leg-up (or pedal up) on anyone else. So remember, science is crap, but healthy living is not so much.
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Pete, science was soooo last century. Currently we go with ‘gut’, conspiracy, anecdotal evidence, with a touch of wishful thinking. Not to mention putting down anything we haven’t taken time to research. Time to ketchup to the current ‘standards’. Get ‘real’, geeze.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, I did a 28 mile personal time trial with a measly 500’ of climbing but managed an average speed of 19.6 MPH out and back. However, there were slow downs due to construction and many 90* turns. I follow the tenants of the Mediterranean diet, good sleep, low stress and working out one way or another 6 days a week (dog walks not included). I am not a former racer or have any genetic advantage over anyone else other than good joints. Since next month I will be 69, I can only attribute yesterday’s average speed to obeying the principals to which you and I agree. Full disclosure, I do take 750 mg of Beta Alanine daily which is far below the recommended daily dosage but don’t see it giving me a leg-up (or pedal up) on anyone else. So remember, science is crap, but healthy living is not so much.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, I did a 28 mile personal time trial with a measly 500’ of climbing but managed an average speed of 19.6 MPH out and back. However, there were slow downs due to construction and many 90* turns. I follow the tenants of the Mediterranean diet, good sleep, low stress and working out one way or another 6 days a week (dog walks not included). I am not a former racer or have any genetic advantage over anyone else other than good joints. Since next month I will be 69, I can only attribute yesterday’s average speed to obeying the principals to which you and I agree. Full disclosure, I do take 750 mg of Beta Alanine daily which is far below the recommended daily dosage but don’t see it giving me a leg-up (or pedal up) on anyone else. So remember, science is crap, but healthy living is not so much.
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Unfortunately, or fortunately, I did a 28 mile personal time trial with a measly 500’ of climbing but managed an average speed of 19.6 MPH out and back. However, there were slow downs due to construction and many 90* turns. I follow the tenants of the Mediterranean diet, good sleep, low stress and working out one way or another 6 days a week (dog walks not included). I am not a former racer or have any genetic advantage over anyone else other than good joints. Since next month I will be 69, I can only attribute yesterday’s average speed to obeying the principals to which you and I agree. Full disclosure, I do take 750 mg of Beta Alanine daily which is far below the recommended daily dosage but don’t see it giving me a leg-up (or pedal up) on anyone else. So remember, science is crap, but healthy living is not so much.
Geez, man. You'll never get anywhere with the only methods that have ever been shown to be effective.
(Congrats on the time trial -- an impressive pace)
Edit: On the subject of this thread, when I'm kitted up and on the bike, wearing helmet and dark glasses, I seem to attract the attention of women of a certain age (let's call them "moms"). Not sure what that means. Maybe they're thinking, "He's so thin, I should make him a sandwich".
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Diet, sleep, stress management, exercise?
Geez, man. You'll never get anywhere with the only methods that have ever been shown to be effective.
(Congrats on the time trial -- an impressive pace)
Edit: On the subject of this thread, when I'm kitted up and on the bike, wearing helmet and dark glasses, I seem to attract the attention of women of a certain age (let's call them "moms"). Not sure what that means. Maybe they're thinking, "He's so thin, I should make him a sandwich".
Geez, man. You'll never get anywhere with the only methods that have ever been shown to be effective.
(Congrats on the time trial -- an impressive pace)
Edit: On the subject of this thread, when I'm kitted up and on the bike, wearing helmet and dark glasses, I seem to attract the attention of women of a certain age (let's call them "moms"). Not sure what that means. Maybe they're thinking, "He's so thin, I should make him a sandwich".
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double whooper with cheese, whooper jr, onion rings and large chocolate shake chased by a frozen coke...I ate 10 mcdonald cheese burgers once....my buddy ate 20. true story, after 10 I was done..he had eaten like 15 of them and let out a groan and I started laughing and he looked at me shook his head and polished off the other 5, called me an amature. That was after running the Seattle Marathon.
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Edit: On the subject of this thread, when I'm kitted up and on the bike, wearing helmet and dark glasses, I seem to attract the attention of women of a certain age (let's call them "moms"). Not sure what that means. Maybe they're thinking, "He's so thin, I should make him a sandwich".
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I was visiting my brother in Chicago for a week in the early 70's and brought my Raleigh 3 speed with me. I rode to Wrigley from his home to see the Cubs vs. the Phillies and decided to have a beer and hot dog every inning. The game went 11 innings. Thank goodness back then the refreshments were reasonably priced. After the game I had no problem riding back to his home in Park Ridge. I may have been a bit slower than normal, but then as now, I wasn't measuring my "performance", nor making every ride into some sort of competitive challenge or achievement objective.
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I was visiting my brother in Chicago for a week in the early 70's and brought my Raleigh 3 speed with me. I rode to Wrigley from his home to see the Cubs vs. the Phillies and decided to have a beer and hot dog every inning. The game went 11 innings. Thank goodness back then the refreshments were reasonably priced. After the game I had no problem riding back to his home in Park Ridge. I may have been a bit slower than normal, but then as now, I wasn't measuring my "performance", nor making every ride into some sort of competitive challenge or achievement objective.
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A recent on-going study by the University of California, Irvine, of "super agers" - those in their 80s, 90s and 100+who are doing extremely well cognitively showed 7 characteristics common to these folks:
1. Control of BP and Blood sugar
2. Communicating/talking with friends - a lot.
3. Avoiding stress and prioritizing mental health
4. Prioritizing sleep
5. Protecting vision and hearing
6. Pushing theselves vigorously in exercising
7. Read, listen to music, lectures, concerts, travel - variety. Wordle and Sudoko won't do it.
Also, genetics may have an important part to play. Super agers seem to run in families. Using MRIs, post- mortem and other techniques, they have identified that some brains have more "cognitive reserve" than others.
I have summarized from a lengthy article by AARP (several pages). True, not a "scientific" journal, but based on some good research. I have several in my family and relatives who qualify as "super agers" - but I doubt I will make ti. At 84, I hope I do, also! AARP Bulletin, November 2023
1. Control of BP and Blood sugar
2. Communicating/talking with friends - a lot.
3. Avoiding stress and prioritizing mental health
4. Prioritizing sleep
5. Protecting vision and hearing
6. Pushing theselves vigorously in exercising
7. Read, listen to music, lectures, concerts, travel - variety. Wordle and Sudoko won't do it.
Also, genetics may have an important part to play. Super agers seem to run in families. Using MRIs, post- mortem and other techniques, they have identified that some brains have more "cognitive reserve" than others.
I have summarized from a lengthy article by AARP (several pages). True, not a "scientific" journal, but based on some good research. I have several in my family and relatives who qualify as "super agers" - but I doubt I will make ti. At 84, I hope I do, also! AARP Bulletin, November 2023
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A recent on-going study by the University of California, Irvine, of "super agers" - those in their 80s, 90s and 100+who are doing extremely well cognitively showed 7 characteristics common to these folks:
1. Control of BP and Blood sugar
2. Communicating/talking with friends - a lot.
3. Avoiding stress and prioritizing mental health
4. Prioritizing sleep
5. Protecting vision and hearing
6. Pushing theselves vigorously in exercising
7. Read, listen to music, lectures, concerts, travel - variety. Wordle and Sudoko won't do it.
Also, genetics may have an important part to play. Super agers seem to run in families. Using MRIs, post- mortem and other techniques, they have identified that some brains have more "cognitive reserve" than others.
I have summarized from a lengthy article by AARP (several pages). True, not a "scientific" journal, but based on some good research. I have several in my family and relatives who qualify as "super agers" - but I doubt I will make ti. At 84, I hope I do, also! AARP Bulletin, November 2023
1. Control of BP and Blood sugar
2. Communicating/talking with friends - a lot.
3. Avoiding stress and prioritizing mental health
4. Prioritizing sleep
5. Protecting vision and hearing
6. Pushing theselves vigorously in exercising
7. Read, listen to music, lectures, concerts, travel - variety. Wordle and Sudoko won't do it.
Also, genetics may have an important part to play. Super agers seem to run in families. Using MRIs, post- mortem and other techniques, they have identified that some brains have more "cognitive reserve" than others.
I have summarized from a lengthy article by AARP (several pages). True, not a "scientific" journal, but based on some good research. I have several in my family and relatives who qualify as "super agers" - but I doubt I will make ti. At 84, I hope I do, also! AARP Bulletin, November 2023
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Peter Attia’s book “Outlive” discusses this in some detail. I also recently watched an interesting Netflix documentary series about the lifestyle of very old people living in the Blue Zones. Mental health was a key factor there too, along with exercise, diet etc.
From your linked article:-
“SuperAgers share similar traits, say experts who study them. They tend to be positive. They challenge their brain every day, reading or learning something new. Many continue to work into their 80s.”
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Not a coal miner but I've spent the last 27 years working in metal fabricating and the amount of metal dust, welding fumes, paint fumes, solvent fumes that I am being exposed to on daily basis is just crazy. Yes I use PPE sometimes but not all the time. That's one of the reasons why I enjoy cycling so much, it's an opportunity to get fresh air and clean my system out of all the crap.
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Not a coal miner but I've spent the last 27 years working in metal fabricating and the amount of metal dust, welding fumes, paint fumes, solvent fumes that I am being exposed to on daily basis is just crazy. Yes I use PPE sometimes but not all the time. That's one of the reasons why I enjoy cycling so much, it's an opportunity to get fresh air and clean my system out of all the crap.
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ALS is of genetic origin....I've heard that aluminum may cause Alzheimers but scientific research hasn't been able to prove that 100%..
I do wear a dust mask when grinding and polishing aluminum but I hardly ever wear a dust mask when I work with stainless steel or mild steel...Paint and solvents don't seem to bother me at all. I do wear a respirator when spraying paint but it's never100% , I can always smell some paint fumes.
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ALS is of genetic origin....I've heard that aluminum may cause Alzheimers but scientific research hasn't been able to prove that 100%..
I do wear a dust mask when grinding and polishing aluminum but I hardly ever wear a dust mask when I work with stainless steel or mild steel...Paint and solvents don't seem to bother me at all. I do wear a respirator when spraying paint but it's never100% , I can always smell some paint fumes.
I do wear a dust mask when grinding and polishing aluminum but I hardly ever wear a dust mask when I work with stainless steel or mild steel...Paint and solvents don't seem to bother me at all. I do wear a respirator when spraying paint but it's never100% , I can always smell some paint fumes.
From this page: Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and environmental factors - PMC (nih.gov)
I brought it up because someone I know was a metal fabricator and the doctors discussed this with him when he was diagnosed. They told him Lou Gehrig's father was a metal worker and often took Lou to work with him when he was a kid.
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There was a time when benzene and carbon terta chloride were commonly used as solvents, the former proved to be a carcinogen, and latter causes serious liver damage as well as tumors in liver. Less toxic solvents often cause lung inflammation and other damages which may end up resulting in lung fibrosis… depending on the nature of solvents, their dose and frequency of exposure.
If I were in your situation, I would definitely use an appropriate respirator while using solvents.
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Not a coal miner but I've spent the last 27 years working in metal fabricating and the amount of metal dust, welding fumes, paint fumes, solvent fumes that I am being exposed to on daily basis is just crazy. Yes I use PPE sometimes but not all the time. That's one of the reasons why I enjoy cycling so much, it's an opportunity to get fresh air and clean my system out of all the crap.
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