The gomango/tgb project (tommasini content)
12-09-12, 04:42 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,075
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
The gomango/tgb project (tommasini and now colnago content)
Over thanksgiving, Grady gave me the opritunity to work on his recently aquiered super prestige. It really worked out for both of us as he has been busy and I have been hungry for a build but can't justify adding to my modist fleet.
The original plan was to do a cleanup/restore while swapping some of the incorrect bits but Grady gave me a fairly long leash. So long in fact that it only took me a few hours to completely redirect this build, and one of his other. More on that later
Here is how the bike looked after I got it i my basement:
Under all of the dirt and overspray, the bike appears like it has fairly low miles. Check out the hoods and brake surface:
The original plan was to do a cleanup/restore while swapping some of the incorrect bits but Grady gave me a fairly long leash. So long in fact that it only took me a few hours to completely redirect this build, and one of his other. More on that later
Here is how the bike looked after I got it i my basement:
Under all of the dirt and overspray, the bike appears like it has fairly low miles. Check out the hoods and brake surface:
Last edited by thirdgenbird; 12-26-12 at 03:29 PM.
12-09-12, 04:48 PM
#2
Senior Member
It looks like someone rode it through fresh oil!
12-09-12, 04:48 PM
#3
Full Member
subbed. I'm interested because I will likely be doing a similar project in a week or so. Tommasini content here as well.
__________________
12-09-12, 04:55 PM
#4
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,075
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Along with the bike, Grady provided me with a proper cinelli bar/stem combo to replace the pictured stuff.
The new stem didn't have a perfect finish, but we both agreed that it would suffice. This all changed on inspection of the seatpost however. After removing some adhesive residue and rub marks on the seatpost, it became apparent that it at one time had been polished by a previous owner.
I didn't feel right assembling a bike with a polished seatpost and a stem with a marred milky finish, so on Saturday I got my khatfull on:
Neither look perfect, but they look better than when I started and match one another.
The frame now sits polished, waxed, and partially assembled waiting for a "different" groupset
The new stem didn't have a perfect finish, but we both agreed that it would suffice. This all changed on inspection of the seatpost however. After removing some adhesive residue and rub marks on the seatpost, it became apparent that it at one time had been polished by a previous owner.
I didn't feel right assembling a bike with a polished seatpost and a stem with a marred milky finish, so on Saturday I got my khatfull on:
Neither look perfect, but they look better than when I started and match one another.
The frame now sits polished, waxed, and partially assembled waiting for a "different" groupset
12-09-12, 04:57 PM
#5
Thrifty Bill
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 23,525
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1236 Post(s)
Liked 964 Times
in
628 Posts
Subbing in on this one.
__________________
Please don't confuse ebay "asking" prices with "selling" prices. Many sellers never get their ask price. some are far from it. Value is determined once an item actually SELLS. Its easy enough to check SOLD prices.
Please don't confuse ebay "asking" prices with "selling" prices. Many sellers never get their ask price. some are far from it. Value is determined once an item actually SELLS. Its easy enough to check SOLD prices.
12-09-12, 04:59 PM
#6
- Bikes Not Bombs -
12-09-12, 05:09 PM
#7
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,075
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
I guess I should take this time to explain my philosophy/style.
-clean but don't fully restore frames such as a tommasini.
I don't feel right taking a paint brush to paint jobs like this. The paint has a protective layer of chrome underneath and it's patina is part of its pedigree.
-components should look their A game, even if it requires a full refinish. Unless you are sitting on something historical, I think you should always try to bolt clean and well finished parts to a frame. Even if it means removing an anodized coating or getting out the paint.
-there is no harm in mixing component groups or eras if done thoughtfully. It can be fun finding parts from different groups and eras that look right and work well together.
12-09-12, 05:26 PM
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 4,599
Bikes: Vassago Moosknuckle Ti 29+ XTR, 90's Merckx Corsa-01 9sp Record, PROJECT: 1954 Frejus SuperCorsa
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Liked 157 Times
in
75 Posts
Oooh, this is gonna be good.
12-09-12, 05:55 PM
#10
Full Member
Appreciate the offer
I agree with your points. The paint will not be touched, you can trust me on that one. I've done a fair bit of de rusting the chromed areas and I'm going to give it a good coat of wax before I start building it up. The reason I hadn't started it yet was because I didn't have the proper fork for it. The previous owner had a vitus aluminum one on, oh well. Agree on the parts mixing too. Probably not going full campy on this one, however much it deserves it. And I probably will not have the components all cleaned up like I'd like at first(aesthetically ), since I am pretty anxious to put some miles on it. But they will be mechanically sound. The PO used to race this one so it had/has an interesting mix of stuff.
I agree with your points. The paint will not be touched, you can trust me on that one. I've done a fair bit of de rusting the chromed areas and I'm going to give it a good coat of wax before I start building it up. The reason I hadn't started it yet was because I didn't have the proper fork for it. The previous owner had a vitus aluminum one on, oh well. Agree on the parts mixing too. Probably not going full campy on this one, however much it deserves it. And I probably will not have the components all cleaned up like I'd like at first(aesthetically ), since I am pretty anxious to put some miles on it. But they will be mechanically sound. The PO used to race this one so it had/has an interesting mix of stuff.
__________________
12-09-12, 05:57 PM
#11
Banned.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PAZ
Posts: 12,294
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2588 Post(s)
Liked 4,824 Times
in
1,709 Posts
I guess I should take this time to explain my philosophy/style.
-clean but don't fully restore frames such as a tommasini.
I don't feel right taking a paint brush to paint jobs like this. The paint has a protective layer of chrome underneath and it's patina is part of its pedigree.
-components should look their A game, even if it requires a full refinish. Unless you are sitting on something historical, I think you should always try to bolt clean and well finished parts to a frame. Even if it means removing an anodized coating or getting out the paint.
-there is no harm in mixing component groups or eras if done thoughtfully. It can be fun finding parts from different groups and eras that look right and work well together.
-clean but don't fully restore frames such as a tommasini.
I don't feel right taking a paint brush to paint jobs like this. The paint has a protective layer of chrome underneath and it's patina is part of its pedigree.
-components should look their A game, even if it requires a full refinish. Unless you are sitting on something historical, I think you should always try to bolt clean and well finished parts to a frame. Even if it means removing an anodized coating or getting out the paint.
-there is no harm in mixing component groups or eras if done thoughtfully. It can be fun finding parts from different groups and eras that look right and work well together.
Subbed as well - I like watching an Ergo bike (particularly when the frameset is Italian) go together just as much as I liked doing my own. The frame looks fantastic - and you did an outstanding job on the polishing of the post and stem
DD
12-09-12, 06:30 PM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times
in
142 Posts
Subbed on this one for sure.
Heh, wait a minute, that's my baby.
Hold onto your hats for this one, as Casey has so many fresh ideas.
As if he didn't have enough to do cleaning her up, some idiot with a Wagner power painter got out of control w/o fully covering the bike.
No, I wasn't painting the Tommasini!
Irio already took good care of the splatter paint option back in 1990 or so.
As for the Tommasini, this will all be worth Casey's efforts.
This Super Prestige is one of the nicest riding Italian racers I have ever ridden.
I'll continue to acquire parts for Casey at his beckon call.
He'll be setting many of the design parameters for the build, with some fun surprises for everyone.
For my part, I'll be building a set of tubular wheels.
Right now, it looks like nos Campy Victory Strada 36 hole rims with gray Centaur hubs.
I'm not telling how many speeds yet. Hint hint.
Casey can when he is ready.
Can't wait to watch Casey do her proud.
One more thing, thanks Casey!
Heh, wait a minute, that's my baby.
Hold onto your hats for this one, as Casey has so many fresh ideas.
As if he didn't have enough to do cleaning her up, some idiot with a Wagner power painter got out of control w/o fully covering the bike.
No, I wasn't painting the Tommasini!
Irio already took good care of the splatter paint option back in 1990 or so.
As for the Tommasini, this will all be worth Casey's efforts.
This Super Prestige is one of the nicest riding Italian racers I have ever ridden.
I'll continue to acquire parts for Casey at his beckon call.
He'll be setting many of the design parameters for the build, with some fun surprises for everyone.
For my part, I'll be building a set of tubular wheels.
Right now, it looks like nos Campy Victory Strada 36 hole rims with gray Centaur hubs.
I'm not telling how many speeds yet. Hint hint.
Casey can when he is ready.
Can't wait to watch Casey do her proud.
One more thing, thanks Casey!
12-09-12, 06:35 PM
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times
in
142 Posts
Along with the bike, Grady provided me with a proper cinelli bar/stem combo to replace the pictured stuff.
The new stem didn't have a perfect finish, but we both agreed that it would suffice. This all changed on inspection of the seatpost however. After removing some adhesive residue and rub marks on the seatpost, it became apparent that it at one time had been polished by a previous owner.
I didn't feel right assembling a bike with a polished seatpost and a stem with a marred milky finish, so on Saturday I got my khatfull on:
Neither look perfect, but they look better than when I started and match one another.
The frame now sits polished, waxed, and partially assembled waiting for a "different" groupset
The new stem didn't have a perfect finish, but we both agreed that it would suffice. This all changed on inspection of the seatpost however. After removing some adhesive residue and rub marks on the seatpost, it became apparent that it at one time had been polished by a previous owner.
I didn't feel right assembling a bike with a polished seatpost and a stem with a marred milky finish, so on Saturday I got my khatfull on:
Neither look perfect, but they look better than when I started and match one another.
The frame now sits polished, waxed, and partially assembled waiting for a "different" groupset
Well done!
12-09-12, 06:37 PM
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Queens NYC
Posts: 3,175
Bikes: Colnago Super, Basso Gap, Pogliaghi, Fabio Barecci, Torelli Pista, Miyata 1400A
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 316 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
I'm tracking this thread to.
Look's like this Tommasini is going to get the treatment a bike of this pedigree deserves. I can't wait to see the finished product! Now listen, this gomango character is a pretty decent guy, and he's the best friend I have in Minnesota, so make sure you do the right thing by him, OK?
Look's like this Tommasini is going to get the treatment a bike of this pedigree deserves. I can't wait to see the finished product! Now listen, this gomango character is a pretty decent guy, and he's the best friend I have in Minnesota, so make sure you do the right thing by him, OK?
__________________
It never gets easier, you just go faster. ~ Greg LeMond
12-09-12, 06:50 PM
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times
in
142 Posts
I'm tracking this thread to.
Look's like this Tommasini is going to get the treatment a bike of this pedigree deserves. I can't wait to see the finished product! Now listen, this gomango character is a pretty decent guy, and he's the best friend I have in Minnesota, so make sure you do the right thing by him, OK?
Look's like this Tommasini is going to get the treatment a bike of this pedigree deserves. I can't wait to see the finished product! Now listen, this gomango character is a pretty decent guy, and he's the best friend I have in Minnesota, so make sure you do the right thing by him, OK?
Thanks for the support though.
Have fun with the thread guys.
Casey and I are certainly enjoying the process.
12-09-12, 06:54 PM
#17
Senior Member
12-09-12, 06:56 PM
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Queens NYC
Posts: 3,175
Bikes: Colnago Super, Basso Gap, Pogliaghi, Fabio Barecci, Torelli Pista, Miyata 1400A
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 316 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
I'm kind of jealous though. There seem to be a great group of C&V'ers and alot of talent in your neck of the woods. I tell you, If your summers lasted more than 3 weeks, I might think about moving there!
__________________
It never gets easier, you just go faster. ~ Greg LeMond
12-09-12, 06:58 PM
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times
in
142 Posts
Heck, with the warming trend/drought we've been suffering through, the foot of new snow today feels pretty darn good.
Oh my.
12-09-12, 07:21 PM
#21
Banned.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PAZ
Posts: 12,294
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2588 Post(s)
Liked 4,824 Times
in
1,709 Posts
DD
12-09-12, 07:30 PM
#24
Senior Member
12-09-12, 08:36 PM
#25
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 7,075
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Well it didn't take long for this thread to pick up speed.
grady is lucky this frame is a touch too small for me or I would be finding a way to keep it on my side of the state line. This build has me so excited it has made me really reconsider my current stable. I may have to trade out my only non steel bike for a more traditional race frame.
grady is lucky this frame is a touch too small for me or I would be finding a way to keep it on my side of the state line. This build has me so excited it has made me really reconsider my current stable. I may have to trade out my only non steel bike for a more traditional race frame.