tomato coupe

My brain has a hard time understanding the total disconnect between the above post, and a post you made 5 hours earlier:

LarrySellerz

it’s rough because I live on the steepest hill in Redwood City (maxes out at around 20% grade) and I descend it atleast once a day. One could take the two blind turns at 40-60 mph if they were skilled and insane. I try to go a bit faster every day but it’s not a very effective drill

spelger

what does this mean? google search does not turn up anything quite relevant.

LarrySellerz

I only supertuck on straight roads or slight bends, sharp turns are where I struggle

spelger

that is a 40mph turn? even in a car that looks quite sketchy.

tomato coupe

Yeah, riding supertuck is clearly a good idea for someone with poor bike handling skills.

genejockey 

Accent on the insane. This is why I never descend OLH - except that time I overheated half way up and had to go back down the way I came - blind corners. Riders have died, including one on Kings, coming around blind corners IN THEIR LANE when cars were coming up and going around cyclists. You see it all the damn time - too many drivers won't wait for a clear section, and they think they're being nice to you giving you a wide berth as you climb, but they clearly can't see around the bend.

spelger

i supertucked once on a lonely hill, when i went to get back on the saddle i caught my shorts on the horn. it supersucked.

genejockey 

It is not.

njkayaker

Remind your brain that it's Larry just makin' comments.

njkayaker

You should be turning up your skeptical dial with whatever Larry says.

njkayaker

40 mph seems a large exaggeration for "regular" people (if not nearly everybody). But that claim is coming from Larry, which makes it very suspect.

There's also the issue of the fastest line entering and exiting in the opposite lane.

Any guess what is a reasonable "fast" speed for that turn?

tomato coupe

I did, but it didn't help.

njkayaker

That's sad. My advice is to give up and throw your computer away.

Mojo31

That’s what they tell in high speed driving classes.

Mojo31

Depends on the car and how much of the road you can use.

Mojo31

For cornering practice, just ride on sidewalks and use the pedestrians as slalom cones. Time yourself, and work to better your time.

GhostRider62

Larry, when I want to cut thru 90% of the BS, I look for what Jobst Brandt wrote decades ago. You can find a good cornering intro from him on Sheldon Brown's website.

genejockey 

1) One of them that's got >1g cornering ability, and 2) All of it and then some.

Mojo31

Looks like it has some bank to it. Does the radius decrease?

Would be fun to get a run on it if you could use the whole road.

seypat

A Panda AE86 could take it at high speed.............with the right driver behind the wheel.

LarrySellerz

you can take it at 40+ Mph if you are skilled enough. People do it. Personally I can’t take it over 25 mph. Bikes can take turns harder than cars

LarrySellerz

I know, it was recent, very sad

tomato coupe

If you cut through 90% of the BS, only 26 pounds remain.

grizzly59