So this may have happened...Ciocc content
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So this may have happened...Ciocc content
I have always wanted a Ciocc Mockba since youth. Never saw one recently enough that wasn't priced out of my range of comfort. It is a project and I likely overpaid a bit, but 'tis life. Seller says 26.4mm seatpost, but I am not sure that it is correct. I will know soon enough. @Mad Honk 's project Ciocc Mockba now has a South Carolina cousin.
Super Record crankset, Superbe DT shifters, Superbe RD, Superbe pedals, presumably SR FD, Modolo Professional brakes/levers (hoods are dead) and Cinelli 65-40/stem convey. Oh, and the bar tape of course.
Super Record crankset, Superbe DT shifters, Superbe RD, Superbe pedals, presumably SR FD, Modolo Professional brakes/levers (hoods are dead) and Cinelli 65-40/stem convey. Oh, and the bar tape of course.
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Nice! Well, except for the rust...but there's stuff for that.
I seriously doubt the 26.4 seat post size could be correct: even if this frame has an Aelle seat tube (not likely if the remnant of Columbus decal is correct) it would be at the least 26.8.
I'd be quite surprised if this isn't 27.2
Some "purists" might cast aspersions on the Modolo Pro brakes and the Superbe components, but not me, I like both (even Sun Tour on such an Italian frame).
If this floats your boat then just keep rowing.
I seriously doubt the 26.4 seat post size could be correct: even if this frame has an Aelle seat tube (not likely if the remnant of Columbus decal is correct) it would be at the least 26.8.
I'd be quite surprised if this isn't 27.2
Some "purists" might cast aspersions on the Modolo Pro brakes and the Superbe components, but not me, I like both (even Sun Tour on such an Italian frame).
If this floats your boat then just keep rowing.
02-05-23, 12:30 PM
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Nice! Well, except for the rust...but there's stuff for that.
I seriously doubt the 26.4 seat post size could be correct: even if this frame has an Aelle seat tube (not likely if the remnant of Columbus decal is correct) it would be at the least 26.8.
I'd be quite surprised if this isn't 27.2
Some "purists" might cast aspersions on the Modolo Pro brakes and the Superbe components, but not me, I like both (even Sun Tour on such an Italian frame).
If this floats your boat then just keep rowing.
I seriously doubt the 26.4 seat post size could be correct: even if this frame has an Aelle seat tube (not likely if the remnant of Columbus decal is correct) it would be at the least 26.8.
I'd be quite surprised if this isn't 27.2
Some "purists" might cast aspersions on the Modolo Pro brakes and the Superbe components, but not me, I like both (even Sun Tour on such an Italian frame).
If this floats your boat then just keep rowing.
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Your list already includes some really nice ones. 2 ADs has been my thing as well.
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The SLE might find a new home. Not sure yet on that. Depends on how my garage reorganization goes...
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I will probably build it up with some derusting done and make it a riding option before going into a full restoration.
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curious to see what your approach is with the rust as I have a similar situation with an Erickson frame ( with unusual paint I'll never be able to match.)
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"Mark, in this shop we pronounce Ciocc to rhyme with roach, because most of your bike racers do that stuff."*
*my boss at the first bike shop I worked at, Orinda Spoke and Pedal. We sold them BITD.
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I suspect it is going to be a number like this for that seat post:
this one is a slightly snug fit in mine and may need a bit of treatment inside the seat tube to get a nice fit. Smiles, MH
this one is a slightly snug fit in mine and may need a bit of treatment inside the seat tube to get a nice fit. Smiles, MH
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So maybe the 26.4 is not too incorrect...eek!
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I don't see anything that would require torchwork to fix. To me this is on the borderline between "needs new paint" and "derust, touch up, and ride it." That's a decision between you and your finance minister.
"Mark, in this shop we pronounce Ciocc to rhyme with roach, because most of your bike racers do that stuff."*
*my boss at the first bike shop I worked at, Orinda Spoke and Pedal. We sold them BITD.
"Mark, in this shop we pronounce Ciocc to rhyme with roach, because most of your bike racers do that stuff."*
*my boss at the first bike shop I worked at, Orinda Spoke and Pedal. We sold them BITD.
I will know more when it arrives. I probably will go the touch up route first.
My finance minister (me) and I (also me) have decided this was a fitting (hopefully) last purchase.
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@jdawginsc - Nice!
FD is definitely SR with the black parts.
Should you wish to have 64-40 HB instead of the 65-40. I would be happy to swap.
FD is definitely SR with the black parts.
Should you wish to have 64-40 HB instead of the 65-40. I would be happy to swap.
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Well Dawg,
Looks like you have found something to hang the NR rear derailleur on. Smiles, MH
Looks like you have found something to hang the NR rear derailleur on. Smiles, MH
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It was going on the Faggin, but might have to make a tough decision eventually...! Good problem to have. Might have to keep the Ciocc old school and up-date the Faggin.
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I have always wanted a Ciocc Mockba since youth. Never saw one recently enough that wasn't priced out of my range of comfort. It is a project and I likely overpaid a bit, but 'tis life. Seller says 26.4mm seatpost, but I am not sure that it is correct. I will know soon enough. @Mad Honk 's project Ciocc Mockba now has a South Carolina cousin.
Super Record crankset, Superbe DT shifters, Superbe RD, Superbe pedals, presumably SR FD, Modolo Professional brakes/levers (hoods are dead) and Cinelli 65-40/stem convey. Oh, and the bar tape of course.
Super Record crankset, Superbe DT shifters, Superbe RD, Superbe pedals, presumably SR FD, Modolo Professional brakes/levers (hoods are dead) and Cinelli 65-40/stem convey. Oh, and the bar tape of course.
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Nice Ciöcc, congrats, Little ruff here and there, but overall a nice one. I also wanted one, but I afraid it will stay on the bucket list maybe longer than my expiration date.
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And thanks, it seemed it was calling me for some reason. It was nagging at me since I started collecting bikes. I had resolved that I had a good enough stable of frame projects for retirement but it popped up!
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The RD is actually a Superbe Pro. On the regular superbe the two large pivot allenbolts, were made of chromed steel, and had engravings. On the pro they are alloy, as seen on your RD. Also the cable attatchment was just a hex bolt on the regular Superbe, and your RD have the allen bolt of the Superbe Pro.
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Yours looks larger...
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Tucked tail, walked away mumbling to myself...
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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