Thinking of adding a gravel bike
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I love it, I can't find a negative thing to say about it. As I ride it I'm trying to figure out if I want narrow road bars and maybe drop the stem, because that's what I'm use to. But I kinda like the position. I'm 5'9" and got the 56cm, it feels a little big, but I like taller seattubes, the stock stem is a 90mm and I ordered an 80mm to shorten the reach a bit. The bike rides exactly like a road bike, but with wider tires.
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Agree on CrossRip... Trek's pricing in the adventure/gravel category is ridiculous.
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Shark Valley is one of the coolest places I've been on a bike. This is the best time of year to go - no mosquitoes or deer flies, the water is down, and the gators and other wildlife are out.
My son an I did the loop there about 3-4 weeks ago and no exaggeration we saw at least 100 alligators between the parking lot and the tower (7 miles). Many were literally a couple of feet from the paved trail and some were actually lying with their tails out in the roadway. You had to avoid riding over them! It was a little unnerving at first but once you realized that they were very used to people and were totally non-aggressive. They would just open an eye and look at you as you passed.
I have yet to ride the entire 25 mi levee loop in Broward - Altantic W to Sawgrass Rec Park (27), down to I-75, in to Markham Park, back up to Atlantic. I've ridden most of the route individually though - all except the 2 mi stretch on the narrow shoulder of 27 (kind of scary with cars and trucks passing at 70-80mph) and the western half of the trail from 27 back to Markham.
There are some great trails south of Markham as well although I've not explored them all yet. Also some great trails north and west of Lox. I've done a few of them but not all. So far the roughest ride is the stretch from Atlantic out to SR27. If you do the loop clockwise and the wind is out of the east, that can be a brutal 10 miles.
There are some other trails in Everglades National Park and Big Cypress that I plan to do before late spring (when it starts getting hot and the bugs come out). If you take SR41 (Tamiami Trail) west there are some great places to explore in Everglades City and Chokoloskee. Also, the 38 mi road from Homestead to Flamingo is really cool with lots of smaller loops. Much of this is far less visited than Shark Valley.
I seriously considered both the Trek DS and FX as my first bike for the levees. However, I found a mint 2011 Giant Roam 1 in a Pawn shop that looked like it had been ridden maybe 5 times and stored in the garage for $150 so I figured I would try it. I made the mistake of letting my son ride it and he loved the bike so I gave it to him and figured I would find another one. I ended up buying another Roam new from Bike America for not much money and figured I would ride it until I figured out what would be better. So far I haven't felt like I need to upgrade it but am actually looking at buying a road bike ???
My son an I did the loop there about 3-4 weeks ago and no exaggeration we saw at least 100 alligators between the parking lot and the tower (7 miles). Many were literally a couple of feet from the paved trail and some were actually lying with their tails out in the roadway. You had to avoid riding over them! It was a little unnerving at first but once you realized that they were very used to people and were totally non-aggressive. They would just open an eye and look at you as you passed.
I have yet to ride the entire 25 mi levee loop in Broward - Altantic W to Sawgrass Rec Park (27), down to I-75, in to Markham Park, back up to Atlantic. I've ridden most of the route individually though - all except the 2 mi stretch on the narrow shoulder of 27 (kind of scary with cars and trucks passing at 70-80mph) and the western half of the trail from 27 back to Markham.
There are some great trails south of Markham as well although I've not explored them all yet. Also some great trails north and west of Lox. I've done a few of them but not all. So far the roughest ride is the stretch from Atlantic out to SR27. If you do the loop clockwise and the wind is out of the east, that can be a brutal 10 miles.
There are some other trails in Everglades National Park and Big Cypress that I plan to do before late spring (when it starts getting hot and the bugs come out). If you take SR41 (Tamiami Trail) west there are some great places to explore in Everglades City and Chokoloskee. Also, the 38 mi road from Homestead to Flamingo is really cool with lots of smaller loops. Much of this is far less visited than Shark Valley.
I seriously considered both the Trek DS and FX as my first bike for the levees. However, I found a mint 2011 Giant Roam 1 in a Pawn shop that looked like it had been ridden maybe 5 times and stored in the garage for $150 so I figured I would try it. I made the mistake of letting my son ride it and he loved the bike so I gave it to him and figured I would find another one. I ended up buying another Roam new from Bike America for not much money and figured I would ride it until I figured out what would be better. So far I haven't felt like I need to upgrade it but am actually looking at buying a road bike ???
Winter is definitely the best time for Shark Valley, I've been in December, April and November. In April my daughter and I were on a walking trail by the tower and couldn't go very far because a big ol' gator was blocking the path.
And yes the stretch of 27 is terrifying. I've done it a bit and I usually go full sprint through there. A few times on charity rides out there they take the loop counter clockwise so at least you can see what's about to hit you or blow you to the side. I haven't done the Everglades Park bit yet but want to, I've heard the road is a little torn up in places so the FX or Crossrip might be better for that. I'd also use the new bike for the overseas highway in the keys, too much crap and small coral pebbles for a road bike unless you want to change tubes and tires 3-4 times. I've done it several times on the old MTB with H2 (1.5" hybrid tires).
What we lack in hills we more than make up for in beautiful year round riding weather, I've yet to break out the jacket this year and I ride 6 mornings a week. Have a great weekend!
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I plan to do a Keys trip soon as well. I've been down there (Key Largo, Islamorada, Duck Key, and Key West) countless times in 30 years by car and boat but I've not done it with a bike. 7 mile bridge and the Long Key area look like a great place to ride.
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How do you like? I've got my eyes on a 2016 Jamis Exploit at the LBS. Took a test ride last night. A really plush ride. Probably not a rocket ship, but not a rocking chair either. What size do you have? They have it in a 58, but my road bike is a 56. I'm an odd body type. 5' 10" with long arms, legs, but small torso.
I also think the OP should take a look at the Renegade too!
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The Exploit is a sweet bike and it was a tough call between it and the carbon Expert. I wound up with the Expert. I'm a leggy 5'11" and the 56 fits me perfectly. Based on your description I think the 58 would be too big.
I also think the OP should take a look at the Renegade too!
I also think the OP should take a look at the Renegade too!
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Nice bike, how much did you get it for off of Craig's list?
I'm in South Florida and I just added a cyclocross/gravel bike to my collection. You need drop bars for it to be a proper gravel bike. I do two rides per week of ~25 miles at night and it is awesome! We have a ~5 mile section where we call it the hammerfest and being able to average 20-22 mph in that section makes it worthwhile. I've only had it for three weeks And I have put around 200 miles and enjoy every minute of it.
I did not want to spend too much money but found a decent one on Craigslist.
If you are getting a gravel bike I say you get one with drop bars. That is my vote.
I am ridding 40cm tubeless maxxis ramblers and the 11 speed sram rival group set. It is a BD Mobecane CycloCross pro. I made some changes to it but it rides really well.
Good luck.
Edit: I ride with the people at Bike America WPB. Every Wednesday they have a levee ride at night. They also have one most Thursday's.
https://www.facebook.com/Bike-Americ...7561022308255/
I did not want to spend too much money but found a decent one on Craigslist.
If you are getting a gravel bike I say you get one with drop bars. That is my vote.
I am ridding 40cm tubeless maxxis ramblers and the 11 speed sram rival group set. It is a BD Mobecane CycloCross pro. I made some changes to it but it rides really well.
Good luck.
Edit: I ride with the people at Bike America WPB. Every Wednesday they have a levee ride at night. They also have one most Thursday's.
https://www.facebook.com/Bike-Americ...7561022308255/
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I added a gravel bike to my collection... can't wait to go on some epic rides.
Motobecane Omni Strada Comp with 105 components. Purchased from BikesDirect. Assembled and fine-tuned by the LBS.
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Mounts for Niterider head and tail lights
Motobecane Omni Strada Comp with 105 components. Purchased from BikesDirect. Assembled and fine-tuned by the LBS.
Additions:
Nashbar Saddle Bag
Speedplay Frog Pedals
Revelate Frame Bag
Zefal bottle cages
Cateye Strada Bike Computer
Mounts for Niterider head and tail lights
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^^
How do you like the Revelate bag?
How do you like the Revelate bag?
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It fits the bike perfectly... but I haven't had a chance to go on a long ride with it yet. The bag is very well-made and was easy to install. Look and feels like it's built to last a long time. I'm looking forward to using it on 50+ mile rides.
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Here's a pic of the 40mm tires..... BikesDirect says it can fit 45mm tires.
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FloridaMTB, I don't know if you have decided yet, but I'd recommend the drop bar bike over the flat for more hand positions. Before you know it, you'll be doing 50 mile rides on the levees, and the drop bars will help. I live in the same area as you, and for a couple years rode the levee system (and some trails in north/central Florida) on a Crossrip Elite before upgrading to a Boone 5 Disc, which eats up about 80 miles of levee per week. I love it. I also shop at the Trek Sunrise store, and Jeff and the rest of the guys are great. The 'rip is a nice bike and well-suited for levee riding. You can upgrade the tires to tubeless, which smoothes out the roughest sections, i.e., the E-W segment between Atlantic and US27. If you make it up to the Lox Wilderness Refuge (the southernmost entrance is in Parkland), you will find the gravel to be orders of magnitude smoother. I've seen eagles, boar, lots of deer, and a bobcat along the levee. If you are considering the top of the line Crossrip, also consider a Crockett, which is a CX bike. Like the Boone, it will accommodate at least 38mm tires, probably even a true 40mm. I currently ride with Schwalbe G-One Allrounds in 35mm tubeless. Good luck on your hunt for the perfect bike.
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