88ss

They ride nice, and feel faster, but that may be a placebo effect as I was going pretty fast with my old Specialized tires. I put some Pirelli TPU tubes in too to compliment the tires. These tires are pricey but they are supposed to last many thousands of miles, so if I rotate them they should last me a few years. I bought 25mm just because that is what was already on my bike, but I may get a set of 28mm or wider as they will probably ride like a feather-bed.

eljayski 

Good on ya! I have same (28mm) on my Kirk and they're excellent.

jpescatore

Been riding 32MM 5000s on my Trek Domane for road riding for the last 10000 miles or so. Best compromise between ride and flat resistance of all I've tried over the years.

Iride01 

You don't need to rotate your tires. You'll likely make a booboo while reinstalling and flat sooner.

Just replace the tires as each one wears out. If it's the rear tire that you are replacing, you might want to rotate them then, but I haven't been. My front tires last through several rear tire changes. And though putting the best tire on the front makes sense, I've never felt anything I'd blame on a worn tire while riding. If you do, then change them out.

I don't find GP5000's expensive. But if you aren't looking around for the best price you could be paying 20 - $30 more per tire.

terrymorse 

A GP5000 will not last "many thousands of miles". Not the rear, for sure.

I get 3 or 4 months out of a rear tire, or 2500-3000 miles. Unless it gets a sidewall cut.

wheelreason

Tires lasting a few years? Need a bridge?...

jpescatore

I get about 4K miles out of GP 5000s on the rear, twice that on the front - and that is replacing them when I can just still see the wear dimples - usually I've gotten deep gouges or slices by then and replace when too many or too big/deep.

I don't move the front to the rear, seems like extra work - I just replace it when it needs to be replaced, usually about every second time I'm replacing the rear.

eduskator

How was your mounting experience?

And 4000mi for a rear + 8000mi for a front tire? Get out of here!!

t2p

Conti GP4S is a good compromise tire - with added flat protection compared to a GP5K - but with increased weight and rolling resistance ... GP4S also has better grip on wet surfaces

the new GP5AS is another similar compromise tire - but weight is increased compared to the GP4S ... and the GP5AS might run small (GP5AS also avail in larger 35mm size but with additional weight penalty)

32mm Conti GP4S pictured above

msu2001la

I like the GP5000 a lot and find that I get much higher mileage out of mine than people on the internet claim. I have used the S TR tubeless and love that tire. I've used the tubed versions as well and have zero complaints.

I'm curious about what specialized tires the OP was switching from? I ask because I recently needed to buy new tires and couldn't find the GP5000 S TR in my preferred size (28mm) and I ended up buying Specialized S-works Turbo 2bliss 2T/5T in 30mm. Those tires are pretty great as well, and feel just as fast and smooth as the GP5000's.

msu2001la

Is the GP5000 AS available as a non-tubeless?
I thought they were all tubeless ready. You can run tubeless ready tires with inner tubes, but it doesn't really make sense.

t2p

not too famil with the GP5K AS - only read about it

I was encouraged when I learned the GP5K AS was available in 35mm size - but not thrilled with the weight (425 g) - especially if they run small

I run tubes on tubeless ready tires - have no interest in going tubeless

daviddavieboy

That is reasonable for a rear tire IMO 8K like the other post mentioned I would be skeptical.

One thing I did notice however is that over the years the center tread thickness has changed. For example the TL version was thicker than the newer TR version. FWIW I run a 28mm rear as tubeless and get the ~3000mi out of it.

yaw

I am running 28mm GP5K clinchers with the Pirelli TPU tubes, usually on the low end of the Silca PSI calculator, and it works perfectly for me.

The flat resistance in these tyres is significant, I pulled out pointy shards where I was stunned that they did not make it through.

Several friends jumped onto the same setup and everyone is happy with it.

Tomm Willians

Seems like no matter what new tire I try I always end up going back to gp5000’s. I currently run 32mm on my Pivot E Vault with 50mm carbon wheels and love them. As I simply cannot stop messing with success, I’ve picked up a pair of the Vittoria NEXT in 32mm for an extra wheelset I have. Supposedly they are a direct challenge to the gp5000 and a bit cheaper.

88ss

The tires I was running before were Specialized Espoir, which I think is the Specialized attempt at something like a Gatorskin ??? It is a pretty fast tire but rides nowhere nearly as well as the gp5000.

I am surprised at the comments about how changing tires takes time and is risky for the tubes etc.. I thought it should be one of the most basic skills a cyclist should be proficient at. I actually enjoy playing with changing tires and tubes, and all other areas of cycle maintenance etc...

jpescatore

I just put two new GP5000 tubefuls on my road bike. Another nice thing about them - with only a little bit of trickery (leaving the tires out in the sun while I cleaned/lubed chain, washed bike, took wheels off etc.) I was able to get the new tires on by hand and no bead jack needed, though much grunting.

On my touring/gravel bike I run Schwalbe Marathon's and I always have to either pull out the dish soap or the bead jack - those are really tight.

Getting that last bit of bead over the rim while sitting on the shoulder of a highway in the rain is why I do a few extra things to avoid flatting, though older tires are usually easier to get back on.

msu2001la

The new GP5000 S TR and AS are much easier to mount than the old (and now discontinued) GP5000 TL.
The TL was awful, and is why this tire gets such a bad rap for being difficult to mount. I would avoid those TL's, but any other version of the GP5000 should be fine.

I was able to mount brand new S TR's with a single tire lever, and probably could've done it with thumb levers if needed. They also seated with just a floor pump.

EJM73

Great tire but my rear tire wears quick too. I rotate them mid summer

prj71

Not exactly a true statement. Depends on rider weight, tire pressure, average temperature and how nice or how ****** the paved surfaces are that you ride on.

A 225 lb guy is going to wear out a tire faster than a 150 lb guy.

Strava indicates that I have 3500 miles on my 700 x 32 GP5000s right now. They are still in good shape and will be good for a while yet. Trek Domane and I'm 190 lbs.

These tires are not pricey. If you poke around they usually can be found for $45 or less.

terrymorse 

YMMV, clearly. I can say with some confidence that threads appear on my rear tire in about 3000 miles. 25 mm tire, 90 psi, 135 pound rider, decent road surfaces. One factor may be riding style, as I tend to be aggressive at times -- uphill sprints and other silliness.

I had to pay full retail the other day to replace a tire that blew during a ride. $87, oof! At least it saved me from the phone call of shame. Support your LBS.

downtube42

I'm impressed by all the people who know how many miles they get on their tires. Folks pay attention to and either record or remember such things. Dang, I'm evidently not living my best life.

I like how the tone the GP5000s make on the pavement, I evidently believe the rolling resistance comparisons, and I at least imagine they feel nicer than other tires. They get punctures or cuts when I run over bad stuff, which tends to happen where I live. Maybe less than other tires, but I think there's such a random factor involved in running over bad stuff that I can't draw any rational conclusions about flat resistance. Irrational conclusions, however, are ezpz. I mean, Sonny C won Paris Roubaix on them, right?

prj71

It's not that difficult if you use Strava, Garmin Connect or similar app paired with a bike computer. They have features where you can enter your bike and keep track of the mileage. 7 bikes in our household and I know the mileage on all of them.

Good for knowing service intervals on chains, cassettes, tires etc.

88ss

My theory is that the more you pay for your tires, the more you look at them for cuts and other blemishes gotten from riding. I never look at most of my bike's tires until they go flat or the rear is noticeably worn and I think about rotating it to the front.

jpescatore

I've had a feature suggestion on Strava's suggestion forum for over 2 years that has gotten a lot of up votes but so far no action from Strava:

Strava makes it easy to see cumulative mileage since you joined Strava by each bike, and easy to see total mileage per year summed across all bikes, but you can not easily see yearly mileage by bike.

Easy feature to add, many request to do so but somehow never breaks through Strava's "just do it" threshold.