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Old 02-24-24, 11:40 AM
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Cantilever brake and stem options

Using this Mavic headset with cantilever brakes, do I have any other options than a stem with a hole? I’ve searched for clamp on stops but can’t find any small enough to clamp onto the 22.2 stem. Thanks
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Nitto makes one—not cheap: https://analogcycles.com/products/fa...43248187506920
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Origin8 Brake Hole Mount Cable Hanger https://a.co/d/gsxBxBl
wrong color but they do work.
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Fork crown mounted hangers solve a lot of problems

Either a basic stop, like this one:



or the evolution of the Suntour power hanger, which conveniently replaces both the hanger and straddle.

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https://www.naturalcycleworks.ca/tek...ke-hanger.html
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Originally Posted by fliplap
Fork crown mounted hangers solve a lot of problems

Either a basic stop, like this one:



or the evolution of the Suntour power hanger, which conveniently replaces both the hanger and straddle.

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I’m almost wishing I had a bike with canti brakes so that I could use one of those Suntour power hangers!
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I’m almost wishing I had a bike with canti brakes so that I could use one of those Suntour power hangers!
That is a cool piece of engineering.
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The silver Tektro 1277A shown above with the cable stop is my favorite as the cable runs directly to it, like a caliper brake. So no more fiddling with the cable if you change your bar height.
Most will show the silver ones out of stock, but BikeToolsEtc has them, search for TK-1277A.


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I have one of the Nitto clamp on ones... I like it- it's pretty, and nifty-

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BTW- former member Crank_Addict had one or 2 bikes set up with the Suntour Power Hanger- and he loved it.

I just like having cool, fun cable yokes. Who can resist having an Avid Tri-Dangle on their bike?

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ble-yokes.html
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Paul Funky Monkey - https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/compon...-cable-hanger/

Mine is a 1" model but it's available in 22.2mm.

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Originally Posted by Dfrost
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I’m almost wishing I had a bike with canti brakes so that I could use one of those Suntour power hangers!
Can't remember who did it first, but Cannondale had an equivalent fitting called Force 40:

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Tons of options.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133640959500?itmmeta=01HQG8A8JY32J3M4Y1D1764DVG&hash=item1f1d9f360c:g1IAAOSwvGViYzHJ&itmprp=enc%3AAQ AIAAAAwO63x4BZjObuVT%2FoRdzlWSMZrPieq4D74ChLrq9bfi9doeLA7frvr6AjReTU%2BHDe1uE4Ah0rm418sQbJ4jbTdJ%2BK LTskO%2BZplzEA0Ovnn%2B5O9cGM2%2BWgwWXTtYwPThIOO2knQwsIkeLEAxgKk88cxlpT%2F7wp9eA8RBwk1vyYZo8nCNdtRx7m 7ZV%2FWeT0seVY8o%2Bvo70%2Bf1eEb2Sswg9t1hy5T9wgiK5I7oYBTDn4R5BroyEM3LRgaXBbXqaPIzzg6g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3AB k9SR8qJqYi8Yw
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Can't remember who did it first, but Cannondale had an equivalent fitting called Force 40:
Trek made my favorite of the Power Hanger-esque bits. It uses dual ended, Shimano-style, half straddle cables. I have one on my off-topic Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross, with the bolt replaced by a front rack.

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Originally Posted by Murray Missile
Tons of options.

The OP has a Mavic 305/315 headset, which uses a single piece race/locknut design. They’re easier to adjust than a traditional 2 piece design, and stay in adjustment better, but do not accept spacers or steerer mounted hangers as you’ve suggested. Here’s a diagram that might help.

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I went with the basic fork mount stop. I like how it replaces the hideous fender bolt. Thanks for all the replies.
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Originally Posted by fliplap
Trek made my favorite of the Power Hanger-esque bits. It uses dual ended, Shimano-style, half straddle cables. I have one on my off-topic Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross, with the bolt replaced by a front rack.

According to Trek's 1994 Retail Technical Manual (see the section starting on PDF page 21/printed page 38), they called that a BAU, for "brake actuator unit." They also had a different version for their short-lived line of step-through/women's bikes. And they also seem to have used an IRC (Interloc Racing Design) Widget for some bike models, though I don't remember every seeing one on any of the Treks stocked in the shop where I worked.
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Originally Posted by fliplap
Trek made my favorite of the Power Hanger-esque bits. It uses dual ended, Shimano-style, half straddle cables. I have one on my off-topic Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross, with the bolt replaced by a front rack.

Need to see your whole bike. I have the same frame.
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For whatever it's worth- I used to think these were pretty nifty... but all it takes is a bump or a nudge to flip that switch and you've got no brakes.
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These magic Power Hanger things are epic! I had no clue about them! Now if only traditional canti setups didn't look so right...

I have used the vertical fork-mounted Tektro hangers before, and have a pair. Great products.
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For whatever it's worth- I used to think these were pretty nifty... but all it takes is a bump or a nudge to flip that switch and you've got no brakes.
I just grabbed this as a quick example, never gave the QR much thought.

I've had a few bikes with the QR on the hanger like the one pictured but Suntour or Dia Compe IIRC, the ones I had were usually a pain to get open so I don't think there was any danger of them coming open accidentally. But yeah, if you got one that didn't lock as well as the ones I had it could be a real bad day.
I think I still have a couple bikes with them I haven't built yet. I'll check them to make sure they lock properly, thanks for the heads up.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
For whatever it's worth- I used to think these were pretty nifty... but all it takes is a bump or a nudge to flip that switch and you've got no brakes.
Many brake qr mechanisms rely on an over-centre action, either a toggle, or a detent, or a rotating barrel.
They all take some size of "nudge" to release.
At a minimum the nudge must overcome the brake spring(s).
I've never worried about that size nudge happening accidentally.

Neither do I worry about the wheels - held on with a similar over-centre action - falling off.
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Originally Posted by oneclick
Many brake qr mechanisms rely on an over-centre action, either a toggle, or a detent, or a rotating barrel.
They all take some size of "nudge" to release.
At a minimum the nudge must overcome the brake spring(s).
I've never worried about that size nudge happening accidentally.

Neither do I worry about the wheels - held on with a similar over-centre action - falling off.
Imagine reaching to get something out of one of the back pockets and bumping the lever- or the main flap string gets caught on the lever and you pull the flap up...


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Originally Posted by mechanicmatt
Need to see your whole bike. I have the same frame.
Off-topic, but frames as good as the Monstercross have no business being so (relatively) cheap. Here it is right after building it, with my partner's drop bar XO-2

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