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Old 04-07-23, 05:38 AM
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Congrats, let's have a pic!
She couldn't make it. But here is my current bike:


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Originally Posted by whm1974
Yes, tomorrow I going to a bike shop w/ friend to pick out a new 24" bike. My current 26" is otherwise fine aside that it is harder to get it out building and to put in and out of mini-vans. I should have gotten the 24" in the first place.

Just need quick release wheels and to be able to put on a frame mounted cargo rack. Step through would be nice.
Buy the bike you like the best, the one that feels the best for you, and don't worry about the brakes. They all stop.
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Originally Posted by whm1974
So getting back into biking by riding my ten y/o diamondback, I notice that a lot of new bikes uses disk brakes instead of the caliber brakes my bike has. Are they any better at stopping? How hard to change? More expensive?

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rim brakes since ever for me whether in rain or dry conditions;

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Originally Posted by whm1974
She couldn't make it. But here is my current bike:
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That's going to be tough to beat at a decent price today. And it looks practically new. I've got a 2016 Diamondback.

Maybe it needs new brake pads depending on where it was stored. About brake types, I have both kinds, and discs seem marginally better, but the quality and maintenance of brakes matters more than the type.

Here's an idea: Commit yourself to wearing that bike out, then buy a new bike as a reward. At the very least, get it into riding condition if it isn't already, then you'll have plenty of time to search for the perfect bike.
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Disc brakes first appeared on tandem bikes where braking as long been a concern. On newer bikes they are simpler to adjust if any adjustment is needed with rims of differnt widths and in particular with mountain bikes with their much fatter tires. Their use spilled over to road bikes and now come on bikes selling for $400, so not an expensive change in components.

Now it comes down to mechanical or hydraulic and the hydraulic are easier to mount but require more maintenance and some special tools to bleed the brakes.
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Old 04-08-23, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C
That's going to be tough to beat at a decent price today. And it looks practically new. I've got a 2016 Diamondback.

Here's an idea: Commit yourself to wearing that bike out, then buy a new bike as a reward. At the very least, get it into riding condition if it isn't already, then you'll have plenty of time to search for the perfect bike.
I'm thinking about doing that anyway since it took me a year to save up the money I have. I did go Freedom plasma up in Wood River IL, they me that my iron was too low by three points.

So I just ate a hamburger with spinach... That earned from that can buy the bike for me.
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Originally Posted by georges1
rim brakes since ever for me whether in rain or dry conditions;
Calling Deltas just "rim brakes" is a BIG understatement.
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Calling Deltas just "rim brakes" is a BIG understatement.
Calling Deltas "brakes" is being rather generous.
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But they sure do look cool.
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Originally Posted by whm1974
I'm thinking about doing that anyway since it took me a year to save up the money I have. I did go Freedom plasma up in Wood River IL, they me that my iron was too low by three points.

So I just ate a hamburger with spinach... That earned from that can buy the bike for me.
Most folks have an extra kidney, don't know how the market works.
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But they sure do look cool.
If you like metal parachutes.
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Originally Posted by Calsun
Now it comes down to mechanical or hydraulic and the hydraulic are easier to mount but require more maintenance and some special tools to bleed the brakes.
Hydraulic brakes require LESS maintenance. The one seldom required step of bleeding is the one exception, as it is perhaps slightly more complicated than cable maintenance, but if you compare the amount of maintenance required with cables (regular adjustments to compensate for wear, cable replacement), hydraulic brakes are still the winner.
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Originally Posted by whm1974
So getting back into biking by riding my ten y/o diamondback, I notice that a lot of new bikes uses disk brakes instead of the caliber brakes my bike has. Are they any better at stopping? How hard to change? More expensive?
Disc brake's advantages are mostly in wet or gritty conditions. Disc brakes will apply torque to the frame and fork, which can cause damage if installed on a frame or fork that is not designed for disc brakes. This makes retrofitting problematic. You can replace your fork with one designed for disc brakes, and continue to use a rim brake on the rear.
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Old 04-10-23, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ClydeClydeson
Hydraulic brakes require LESS maintenance. The one seldom required step of bleeding is the one exception, as it is perhaps slightly more complicated than cable maintenance, but if you compare the amount of maintenance required with cables (regular adjustments to compensate for wear, cable replacement), hydraulic brakes are still the winner.
Your "one exception" is a pretty big exception. What are you talking about with "cable maintenance?" What is this "regular adjustment to compensate for wear" you speak of? Why do I need to replace my cables?
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Originally Posted by Jeff Neese
... But then a fresh set of KoolStop pads would put those ideas to rest.
Count me in as a member of the KoolStop cult. My son's old bike had Paul cantilever brakes on it that were just terrible. Was convinced by our LBS to switch to KoolStop pads and the difference was night and day. I've since put them on my Trek road bike with 105 rim brakes and while I won't say they're as good as my bikes with hydraulic discs, they're pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Your "one exception" is a pretty big exception.
Spoken like someone who has never done it.
It's a simple process, even if it's a *gasp* NEW thing to learn. But it doesn't need to be done all that often - every couple or four years maybe, if the bike is used hard in extreme conditions. Many bikes can go a lifetime without having their brakes bled.

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What are you talking about with "cable maintenance?" What is this "regular adjustment to compensate for wear" you speak of? Why do I need to replace my cables?
Cables and housing are commonly known to be wear items. Their performance degrades as the housing wears or the cable fatigues. And they get contaminated with dirt and road grime that adds friction and accelerates wear. The fact that you don't know this indicates you don't know much about the maintenance you have such firm opinions on.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Your "one exception" is a pretty big exception. What are you talking about with "cable maintenance?" What is this "regular adjustment to compensate for wear" you speak of? Why do I need to replace my cables?
If you can keep your saddle and handlebar white, which you do, the least of your maintenance concerns should be the eventual bleeding of your disc brakes. Trust me; it's way less work! I am anything but a lightweight, and over the past year, not including thousands of general-use miles, I have taken the same bike from Gibraltar to Girona, Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi as well as a 5-day trip over the North Cascades, all fully loaded and self-supported, on a Carbon Specialized Diverge other than replacing the pads a couple of times no bleed has been necessary. It's not a big deal and rarely needs to be done. I checked first that this was not C&V, so I hope it's fair for me to comment here.
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Originally Posted by ClydeClydeson
Cables and housing are commonly known to be wear items. Their performance degrades as the housing wears or the cable fatigues. And they get contaminated with dirt and road grime that adds friction and accelerates wear. The fact that you don't know this indicates you don't know much about the maintenance you have such firm opinions on.
Brake cables are definitely not "wear items" unless you abuse them. Road grime doesn't get in them because I don't ride in bad weather. I've never, ever, had a brake or shift cable or housing wear out, ever. If you have, then you must have been doing something wrong.
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Brake cables are definitely not "wear items" unless you abuse use them.
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I think that there are several quality of cables , depends also how the bike is used and how one does use the brakes.
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I think that there are several quality of cables , depends also how the bike is used and how one does use the brakes.
Of course. But, stating that cables only wear if abused is just stupid.
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Originally Posted by whm1974
So getting back into biking by riding my ten y/o diamondback, I notice that a lot of new bikes uses disk brakes instead of the caliber brakes my bike has. Are they any better at stopping? How hard to change? More expensive?

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Yes. Disc brakes are better at stopping.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Brake cables are definitely not "wear items" unless you abuse them. Road grime doesn't get in them because I don't ride in bad weather. I've never, ever, had a brake or shift cable or housing wear out, ever. If you have, then you must have been doing something wrong.

As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
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