Something to think about - strength/aerobic training and heart attacks
10-06-23, 01:40 PM
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Tough study. I think you'd also need a couch potato group to see whether the less effective training was helping, doing nothing, or making people sicker. Then you'd have to do something about systematic differences in body mass, and control for a bunch of other factors, including diet and genetic traits, which also might vary systematically between groups. Then you'd have a big statistical power issue comparing three groups. Yuck!
10-06-23, 04:04 PM
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Tough study. I think you'd also need a couch potato group to see whether the less effective training was helping, doing nothing, or making people sicker. Then you'd have to do something about systematic differences in body mass, and control for a bunch of other factors, including diet and genetic traits, which also might vary systematically between groups. Then you'd have a big statistical power issue comparing three groups. Yuck!
And for a little added bummer for your day, there's this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ctancy-crisis/
The comments are worth reading, too.
Forty years ago in America, low income zip codes saw an 8% higher likelihood of premature death. Now that disparity stands at an astonishing 61%. Sorry about the politics, but it is what it is:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...fe-expectancy/
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10-06-23, 07:24 PM
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And for a little added bummer for your day, there's this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ctancy-crisis/
The comments are worth reading, too.
The comments are worth reading, too.
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10-06-23, 09:05 PM
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At 63, I've watched my parents' generation die. Generally, it's not pretty. In the US we're pretty good at keeping people alive for a long time, particularly if there's money to squeeze out. Quality of life isn't making anyone profit, whilst keeping patients strapped to a bed or chair to prevent falls maximizes the bottom line.
With that backdrop, I'm all for hard workouts for the benefit they provide to my short term goals, and for the type II fun, but I'm wholly uninterested in long term impact on the possibility of cardiac arrest.
YMMV.
With that backdrop, I'm all for hard workouts for the benefit they provide to my short term goals, and for the type II fun, but I'm wholly uninterested in long term impact on the possibility of cardiac arrest.
YMMV.
10-06-23, 09:43 PM
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Quite so. I think the presence or absence of that sort of intervention is inherent in the cultural differences. I'm reading Demon Copperhead, basically about the effect of the Sackler family's intervention in Appalachian culture.
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Well, there's always the problematic observational study: https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/56/21/1218
And for a little added bummer for your day, there's this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ctancy-crisis/
The comments are worth reading, too.
Forty years ago in America, low income zip codes saw an 8% higher likelihood of premature death. Now that disparity stands at an astonishing 61%. Sorry about the politics, but it is what it is:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...fe-expectancy/
And for a little added bummer for your day, there's this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ctancy-crisis/
The comments are worth reading, too.
Forty years ago in America, low income zip codes saw an 8% higher likelihood of premature death. Now that disparity stands at an astonishing 61%. Sorry about the politics, but it is what it is:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...fe-expectancy/
Good book. I listened to it mainly while doing resistance training.
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10-07-23, 06:34 AM
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As I always said when I was a trainer at the police academy, "nobody ever died from a skinny bicep". I stand by that statement today, in spite of what "science" on the internet says.
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