Front wheel malfunctioning after crash
03-23-21, 09:19 AM
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cmon man, the whole point of this forum is so we could help each other out without needing to go to the bike shop for every little thing. No one knows why a front wheel would steer to one direction automatically when doing no hander? I know it has something to do with the fork maybe???
You seem to know why the front wheel steers to one direction with riding no hands since you can visibly see the wheel not in line with the top tube and head tube.
What more do you want from people here? They have said what possible reasons for the bike to not work well and you have already confirmed the bike is jacked up.
03-23-21, 10:14 AM
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https://www.dot.ny.gov/display/programs/bicycle/faq
"In New York State, all bicyclists under the age of 14 years old are required to wear safety certified bicycle helmets when they are operators or passengers on bicycles (Sec. 1238(5)). Children aged 1 to 4 must wear certified bicycle helmet and ride in specially designed child safety seats. Children under 1 are prohibited from being transported on a bicycle (Sec. 1238(1)(2)). Any parent or guardian who permits his or her child to violate the helmet law is subject to a fine of up to $50 (Sec. 1238(3),(6)(a)). Certain communities in New York have passed local ordinances regarding helmet use for bicyclists. For example, Rockland and Erie counties require everyone riding bicycles on county property, regardless of age, to wear approved bicycle helmets."
It's not a state law for adults and trust me... it's never enforced, unless there's an accident that involves serious injury.
"In New York State, all bicyclists under the age of 14 years old are required to wear safety certified bicycle helmets when they are operators or passengers on bicycles (Sec. 1238(5)). Children aged 1 to 4 must wear certified bicycle helmet and ride in specially designed child safety seats. Children under 1 are prohibited from being transported on a bicycle (Sec. 1238(1)(2)). Any parent or guardian who permits his or her child to violate the helmet law is subject to a fine of up to $50 (Sec. 1238(3),(6)(a)). Certain communities in New York have passed local ordinances regarding helmet use for bicyclists. For example, Rockland and Erie counties require everyone riding bicycles on county property, regardless of age, to wear approved bicycle helmets."
It's not a state law for adults and trust me... it's never enforced, unless there's an accident that involves serious injury.
03-23-21, 11:52 AM
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03-23-21, 12:20 PM
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Post pictures in an album in your gallery and we can rescue them for you and post them in here.
It's not that hard to tell that your frame or fork is bent. It could be both. Otoh, have you checked to see that the wheel didn't pull out of the dropout a little?
It's not that hard to tell that your frame or fork is bent. It could be both. Otoh, have you checked to see that the wheel didn't pull out of the dropout a little?
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03-23-21, 02:20 PM
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I'll take a stab at explaining why you wont find a fix here at Bike Forums for this particular question.
When a bike takes an impact to the front, a few of things can happen, and the're all bad.
1. The fork can bend.
This will cause the front wheel to become closer to the pedals.
This weakens the fork and can result in fork failing completely.
2. The Frame can bend.
This will cause the front wheel to become closer to the pedals.
This weakens the frame and can result in frame failure.
3. The Front wheel can be damaged
This can cause a wheel to fail.
All of these failures can cause the rider to go over the handlebars and hit the ground head first.
As bike riders ourselves, we are concerned for your safety and the safety of others that might unknowingly ride the bike you have crashed.
It is for this reason, that having the bike professionally evaluated by a good quality bike store is the common reply to your inquiry.
I hope this helps you understand the concerns expressed here among the members.
And I'm sure you really don't wish to cause harm to another family member.
Barry
When a bike takes an impact to the front, a few of things can happen, and the're all bad.
1. The fork can bend.
This will cause the front wheel to become closer to the pedals.
This weakens the fork and can result in fork failing completely.
2. The Frame can bend.
This will cause the front wheel to become closer to the pedals.
This weakens the frame and can result in frame failure.
3. The Front wheel can be damaged
This can cause a wheel to fail.
All of these failures can cause the rider to go over the handlebars and hit the ground head first.
As bike riders ourselves, we are concerned for your safety and the safety of others that might unknowingly ride the bike you have crashed.
It is for this reason, that having the bike professionally evaluated by a good quality bike store is the common reply to your inquiry.
I hope this helps you understand the concerns expressed here among the members.
And I'm sure you really don't wish to cause harm to another family member.
Barry
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03-23-21, 03:34 PM
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Moving this thread to Mechanics. Hopefully some professionals can shed some advice to the OP
03-23-21, 03:53 PM
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Not sure how a professional can diagnose the problem any better than any non-professionals without seeing the bike in person.
Seems pretty cut and dry.... impact, wheel close to pedals, not going straight. Something is bent.
Seems pretty cut and dry.... impact, wheel close to pedals, not going straight. Something is bent.
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03-23-21, 06:08 PM
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And he might be able to send pics by then.
Or it can NOT be moved just to appease you.
03-23-21, 06:27 PM
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This is what teenagers do, they take their parents property, without permission, damage it and then try to hide.
03-23-21, 06:54 PM
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03-23-21, 07:09 PM
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When i got home he was waiting for me and told me wheat happened. While i was not pleased I hugged him and told him I was proud of his honesty. You see my son became a Eagle Scout just a few months before and the scouts teach personal responsibility. I put some touch up paint on it and when dry did some polishing. I decided to leave the dent since it gave the car character.
I still have the car and no one has ever pointed out the dent.
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03-23-21, 07:21 PM
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Validation? Please...
03-23-21, 08:12 PM
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Pics of the damage
I just uploaded the pics to my gallery under my pictures. I know there are none of the fork but it’s late right now so I can’t rlly go out. In the pics I layed the bike straight down and that’s how the front wheel looked. But there’s rlly no one here that’s ever crashed like this and had this issue
03-23-21, 08:13 PM
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03-23-21, 08:52 PM
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03-23-21, 08:58 PM
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[QUOTE=Siu Blue Wind;21981726]Well sometimes when you get people calling you a troll and joshing you sometimes you dont' take them seriously. Maybe he will be convinced if he gets more validation.
And he might be able to send pics by then.
Nah, im okay with the "joshing". Im just curious is this like a british website or something, cuz u guys are funny. But im gunna be honest i really have no idea about bikes, i had to google image the parts of a bike to even make this thread with the correct terminology. if there rlly is no way i can just pull it back to shape how much should i expect to pay in a bike shop. Ive never been and i dont wanna get robbed, so for fixing the pedal from hiiting the front wheel and the wheel from automatically veering right is it $100-200 or upward?
And he might be able to send pics by then.
Nah, im okay with the "joshing". Im just curious is this like a british website or something, cuz u guys are funny. But im gunna be honest i really have no idea about bikes, i had to google image the parts of a bike to even make this thread with the correct terminology. if there rlly is no way i can just pull it back to shape how much should i expect to pay in a bike shop. Ive never been and i dont wanna get robbed, so for fixing the pedal from hiiting the front wheel and the wheel from automatically veering right is it $100-200 or upward?
03-23-21, 09:03 PM
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I swear im not trying to troll, but how does the fork move it to left or right. I get how me smashing with the front wheel moved the wheel closer to the pedal by pushing it back but i guess the collision could have also moved the whole fork to one side as well
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03-23-21, 09:21 PM
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I just found pics of the fork even though there from far. There in my gallery in my pictures, i dont know why i cant add them to a new album but if anyone wants to take a look and tell how bad the damage looks?
03-23-21, 10:26 PM
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Whoa pull in the reigns, rider. You were not too long ago the one to ask questions. Remember how it was when people were rude to you and treated you like you were stupid? This is a kid, here. Reel yer neck in.
03-23-21, 11:35 PM
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I wasn't aware that he took the bike without permission, I thought he was scared of telling his dad about the damage.
Whoa pull in the reigns, rider. You were not too long ago the one to ask questions. Remember how it was when people were rude to you and treated you like you were stupid? This is a kid, here. Reel yer neck in.
Whoa pull in the reigns, rider. You were not too long ago the one to ask questions. Remember how it was when people were rude to you and treated you like you were stupid? This is a kid, here. Reel yer neck in.
03-24-21, 12:32 AM
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I ran my brother's bike into the back of a car, and it moved the wheel so far back that I could only steer right because the wheel now hit the downtube of the frame. I actually, the only time in my life, took it to a bike shop and he showed me that that frame was coming apart. I told my brother it had gone rusty and I had to throw it out. I am not sure he believed me, but what the heck, I was his brother.
I ran my own bike into a curb, and it bent the forks back and slightly to one side. I bought replacement forks and after much struggling I managed to fit them. I did a good job, but I know the frame was bent because forever afterwards I had to lean the bike to the left to get it to go in a straight line with my hands off the bars.
You could always part the bike out to sell everything on an auction site, get a saturday job and then buy your own bike - or find one. Three of the bikes in my garage came from dumpsters in the past six months - two I have parted out as being of no interest to me.
Oh yeah, just don't be surprised when you are reminded of what you did to your bike in 30-40 years time. Taking responsibility for your bike, its maintenance and replacing of parts, and not relying on anyone else, helps a lot because then no one has to know what you are doing with it. I bought my replacement front wheel and forks using my own savings, and no one but me remembers any more because no one knew the details
I ran my own bike into a curb, and it bent the forks back and slightly to one side. I bought replacement forks and after much struggling I managed to fit them. I did a good job, but I know the frame was bent because forever afterwards I had to lean the bike to the left to get it to go in a straight line with my hands off the bars.
You could always part the bike out to sell everything on an auction site, get a saturday job and then buy your own bike - or find one. Three of the bikes in my garage came from dumpsters in the past six months - two I have parted out as being of no interest to me.
Oh yeah, just don't be surprised when you are reminded of what you did to your bike in 30-40 years time. Taking responsibility for your bike, its maintenance and replacing of parts, and not relying on anyone else, helps a lot because then no one has to know what you are doing with it. I bought my replacement front wheel and forks using my own savings, and no one but me remembers any more because no one knew the details
03-24-21, 03:59 AM
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[QUOTE=marwahnur27;21981956]
Most shops won't even touch fork or frame straightening due to liability issues.
https://www.google.com/search?q=bent...4dUDCA0&uact=5
Well sometimes when you get people calling you a troll and joshing you sometimes you dont' take them seriously. Maybe he will be convinced if he gets more validation.
And he might be able to send pics by then.
Nah, im okay with the "joshing". Im just curious is this like a british website or something, cuz u guys are funny. But im gunna be honest i really have no idea about bikes, i had to google image the parts of a bike to even make this thread with the correct terminology. if there rlly is no way i can just pull it back to shape how much should i expect to pay in a bike shop. Ive never been and i dont wanna get robbed, so for fixing the pedal from hiiting the front wheel and the wheel from automatically veering right is it $100-200 or upward?
And he might be able to send pics by then.
Nah, im okay with the "joshing". Im just curious is this like a british website or something, cuz u guys are funny. But im gunna be honest i really have no idea about bikes, i had to google image the parts of a bike to even make this thread with the correct terminology. if there rlly is no way i can just pull it back to shape how much should i expect to pay in a bike shop. Ive never been and i dont wanna get robbed, so for fixing the pedal from hiiting the front wheel and the wheel from automatically veering right is it $100-200 or upward?
https://www.google.com/search?q=bent...4dUDCA0&uact=5
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03-24-21, 04:52 AM
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nothing was cracked, my noggin included was left intact. I have ridden the bike multiple times after and it works fine but not as smooth as before. It feels completely safe to me but as I’ve said no handing is not possible anymore and the front wheel probably got pushed back next to the pedal which is why it touches when I try to make turns. I just thought maybe I would be able to get away with it unnoticed if there was a quick fix to it. Thing is I don’t know exactly what to search to fix it because I don’t know which part is what and what part is wrong.
Either way something is bent, and possibly something is going to break.
Personally, I would search for a frame and fork or even whole bike replacement. It's not worth the risk IMHO. A fork or frame failing catastrophically while riding is not a joke.
