Ever contemplate your mortality on the road?
05-25-15, 08:15 PM
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Ever contemplate your mortality on the road?
Moved a couple months ago. Haven't figured out a great route. I ride in a suburban area where cycling for transportation is real unusual. Find myself on some fairly faster paced narrow roads with drivers who seem unprepared how to safely negotiate sharing the road with a cyclist. My old commutes were more predictable and I was still careful but I generally felt pretty safe. Now I can't help but wonder If I'm going to eat it on a regular basis. Not complaining, I'm sure other commuters contend with worse. I'm developing new strategies and I'll probably tinker with my route some more. One thing I've figured out is if you want to discourage people from passing too close or when it's unsafe -without putting yourself in the line of fire, is to give the bike some movement without straying from your line. Like get out of the saddle and pump and rock the handle bars or act a little wobbly and unsure of yourself. In my experience people don't want to squish you, but they will risk squishing you if they feel more than 80% confident in their chances. So what say ye, how often do you find yourself wondering if today is the day?
05-25-15, 09:16 PM
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05-25-15, 09:26 PM
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"rock the handlebars or act a little wobbly"
Doesn't that define to take the bike a bit out of straightness; out of perfection from driving in a straight line?
As "rock the handlebars" does. Shaking the steering does.
Motor vehicle drivers, depending on (people who live in) the state that you drive in that method: those m-v drivers of the metro attitude are most likely to think of you being a druggie. One who be high. As why you can't drive in a straight line.
Even the p-d will stop you/harass you. Go as far as a blood test. The only was out of this be if you were disabled.
Doesn't that define to take the bike a bit out of straightness; out of perfection from driving in a straight line?
As "rock the handlebars" does. Shaking the steering does.
Motor vehicle drivers, depending on (people who live in) the state that you drive in that method: those m-v drivers of the metro attitude are most likely to think of you being a druggie. One who be high. As why you can't drive in a straight line.
Even the p-d will stop you/harass you. Go as far as a blood test. The only was out of this be if you were disabled.
05-25-15, 09:30 PM
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But once I actually was on the road, I always felt comfortable because I only had to manage a few cars at a time... so it felt quite safe.I too ride in a suburban area where bicycles are fairly rare. Sometimes you just have to take the lane for your safety. I do this quite often, and only move right when it is safe to do so. A mirror helps manage this much easier. I also communicate with drivers with various hand signals.
No one wants to hit you, don't allow them to pass when there's not enough room to safely do so.
Drivers will get to know you, and you'll get more comfortable with some time on your route.
05-25-15, 09:39 PM
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It's not something you do non stop, like a drunk would. Just for a few seconds at precise moments to force a motorist to pay attention to the cyclist they don't want to hit. Not so much "wobble" but more of a moving around a bit in the lane.
05-25-15, 10:48 PM
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about every time i ride. 
sometimes even when i'm not riding...
sometimes even when i'm not riding...
05-25-15, 11:08 PM
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I have often wondered what the statistics were as to driving vs riding a bike. Which is safer?
05-26-15, 05:44 AM
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… I ride in a suburban area where cycling for transportation is real unusual. Find myself on some fairly faster paced narrow roads with drivers who seem unprepared how to safely negotiate sharing the road with a cyclist. My old commutes were more predictable and I was still careful but I generally felt pretty safe. Now I can't help but wonder If I'm going to eat it on a regular basis. Not complaining, I'm sure other commuters contend with worse…
One thing I've figured out is if you want to discourage people from passing too close or when it's unsafe -without putting yourself in the line of fire, is to give the bike some movement without straying from your line. Like get out of the saddle and pump and rock the handle bars or act a little wobbly and unsure of yourself. In my experience people don't want to squish you, but they will risk squishing you if they feel more than 80% confident in their chances.
So what say ye, how often do you find yourself wondering if today is the day?
One thing I've figured out is if you want to discourage people from passing too close or when it's unsafe -without putting yourself in the line of fire, is to give the bike some movement without straying from your line. Like get out of the saddle and pump and rock the handle bars or act a little wobbly and unsure of yourself. In my experience people don't want to squish you, but they will risk squishing you if they feel more than 80% confident in their chances.
So what say ye, how often do you find yourself wondering if today is the day?
05-26-15, 07:18 AM
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Starting out as a roadie, and still doing lots of riding on my road bike...nah. I was used to being on the roads long before I started commuting. There are some roads I am a little more perked up on while on them, but it is my belief that my chances of being seriously hurt are about the same if I were in a car
05-26-15, 07:57 AM
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The wobble method works from what I've read here, I haven't tried it.
In my particular situation, what has worked is using a daylight visible taillight - IMO only the DesignShine DS500 and some of the Dinotte models qualify - but both are in the $200 range for a taillight.
The other thing is to take the lane when necessary. I actually ride pretty far right most of the time, but there are times when I am mid-lane. It's highly situationally dependent though and I am not going to try to tell someone else when or how to do that.
In my particular situation, what has worked is using a daylight visible taillight - IMO only the DesignShine DS500 and some of the Dinotte models qualify - but both are in the $200 range for a taillight.
The other thing is to take the lane when necessary. I actually ride pretty far right most of the time, but there are times when I am mid-lane. It's highly situationally dependent though and I am not going to try to tell someone else when or how to do that.
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I don't contemplate my mortality, but have contemplated my morality.
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i think its healthy to consider it. I was hit several times while commuting in africa. its always on my mind, but it keeps me riding safely. stay safe, its not that bad. the average motorist does not wnt to take the time out of his/her day to hit a cyclist, it really does take a long time to sort out and is a real bummer.
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I think about it from time to time, but I honestly feel more at risk while driving. You are traveling at much higher speeds in a car, with the possibility of head-on collisions, and the roads that I drive on are much more heavily trafficked.
05-26-15, 08:49 AM
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After a second friend was killed. Both were experienced and safe cyclists. The first I kind of wrote off as a bit of an anomaly. The second happened on a route that I and many others ride frequently. He was hit from behind.
05-26-15, 09:01 AM
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I like a mirror and bright front and rear lights, day and night. Twice, using my mirror, I could see cars not paying attention and got out of their way.
05-26-15, 09:36 AM
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If I didn't contemplate my mortality, I don't think I would have preserved my life this far.
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Whose woods these are, I think I know
His house is in the village, though
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow
His house is in the village, though
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow
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After doing some self-study on Stoicism, I've tried to make it a habit to contemplate my mortality every day.
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Yes. Back in the Navy, I would also lean over the side of the life lines on the smoke deck well after we switched to red lights and stared out into the black, cold sea, wondering what it would be like to fall overboard and be forgotten. Fun times.
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