KickinA

Hello All,

I'm trying to decide between 2016 EVO SuperSix 105 or a 2015\16 Synapse Carbon 105. I've ridden a 2015 Synapse Carbon 105 and it felt very responsive and definitely more of an upright ride compared to 2015 SuperSix Evo I also test rode. The 2015 SuperSix felt a bit lighter than the Synapse, with a more forward leaning ride but it didn't feel too crouched forward.

I haven't had a chance to ride the 2016 SuperSix yet though.

Any feedback on these 2 bikes?

thanks

goenrdoug

both are outstanding bikes. Your observation that the position is different between the two is basically the difference-- the supersix is a racier geometry while the synapse is a more endurance-oriented geometry. That being said, they're both fine bikes and are both suitable for fast or long rides. You just have to figure out whether you want a bike more dedicated to going fast or one more dedicated to going far. You also need to honestly assess your own fitness and flexibility (as well as project your probable fitness/flexibility level a year from now.)

Personally, the EVO is currently my dream bike.

d77

Yup, totally depends on the type of riding you're planning on doing and your fitness. I bought a 2013 SuperSix 5 105. I like to go fast but sometimes I wish I'd gone for the comfier ride of the Synapse as I'm not getting any younger.

series1811

I have a 2015 Supersix EVO 105. It is an outstanding bike. I don't think the 2016's Supersix EVO's will be out until later this year, that is what my Cannondale dealer has told me anyway. The Synapse is an excellent bike as well. Decide what type of riding you will be doing. If you will be doing a lot of long endurance rides, the Synapse will be more comfortable, but the Supersix EVO handles them very well also. If you plan on doing more aggressive rides, the Super Six EVO will have the advantage, but the Synapse could handle them as well. Both are excellent bikes.

evotooexpensive

I recently went through the same dilemma. Finally I purchased a Supersix Evo 105 2015 model.

The 2016 model is supposed to be lighter with Aksium wheels, I guess a better crankset and from what I heard a slightly better saddle.

I however got a nice deal on the 2015 and the dealer gave me an upgrade to the krysium elite wheels for 500 bucks, essentially getting me a bike in the same price range as the list price for the 2016 Evo.

I am pretty happy with the bike and loving the ride so far. Or another way to say I am not having the buyers remorse about not going with a 2016. Of course if you are getting both around the same price range, 2016 would be a no brainer.

macca33

There is the conundrum right there, that ONLY you can determine - do you want a more upright/relaxed position, or a more aggressive one? Both bikes are fantastic and will serve you well, but choose which you prefer and enjoy that choice.

cheers

KickinA

Thanks for all the replies. I finally ordered a 2016 Synapse Carbon Ultegra 4 in the 58cm size instead of the 56cm size. I just felt that with the more upright position, the 56cm seemed a bit too "scrunched" for me and the 58cm seemed to just feel better to me as I can stretch out a bit more.

I also plan to do the Seattle to Portland and Seattle to Vancouver rides, both rides are around to 200mile range and felt that the additional comfort would help compared to the Evo.

Ray9

This is my rain bike now. I got the Six 13 in 2008 and soon realized I was aboard a machine designed for speed and comfort. It is more upright than the EVO and a little less responsive but it gets the job done affordably. I would recommend this bike as an entry level ride for those who want to take cycling more seriously. The synapse felt awkward to me. I have a Super Six EVO Dura Ace and my record speed for the same twenty mile flat course is tied with the Six 13.

Tpcorr

What was the msrp on your new synapse? Did the dealer discount it for you? Any idea what the price of the Synapse ultegra 3 is?

Willbird

I just got a new in store 2014 Supersix EVO, loving it so far. For anybody that dredges this thread up in the future one difference between the two is maximum tire size. The EVO seems to be about maxed out with 25's. Mine came with 23's which measure 23.3 , I measured between the new brake pads with the caliper open and got a little over 26mm between the pads on the rear. Lots on frame clearance for increased tire dia, not so much on width. Looks like most 25's will fit fine. My 2014 has a 21.25 outside rim width on the RS11 wheels, not sure if they shifted to a wider rim with the newer Supersix coming with 25's or not.

KickinA

The list price was $2660 for the 2016 synapse carbon ultegra 4 and I got a 20% discount. I notice on the Cannondale website, they don't even list all the 2016 bike info yet, but my LBS had the 2016 catalogue with all the 2016 specs.

series1811

Did you get the free Garmin 510 with yours?

jaxgtr

I own a 2015 Carbon Synapse and it's a nice bike, but I don't love it. I came from a 2013 SuperSix that "I loved", and before that a 2007 CAAD9. I thought I would move to a more comfortable bike as I crossed over to the age of 50 and was looking to the future with a frame that would work with either mechanical or electronic components. I should have gotten the EVO instead as I find that I really prefer the more aggressive geometry of the SuperSix. I rode a CAAD10 the other day and was amazed by the wonderful ride qualities the bike had and decided I will be selling my Synapse and will pick up a CAAD12 or if I can get a good deal, a CAAD10 frame and move my components over.

I don't race and while I love the ride of the Carbon frame, I don't really need it and as far as weight of the bike, with the Trek Emonda ALR and the CAAD10/12, with Ultegra level, you can get a 16 lb bike without the Carbon price tag. Add in a carbon seatpost and bars and you've essentially nullified the roadbuzz aluminum generally provides.

jtaylor996

Jaxgtr, why not go to the 2016 SuperSix then? It has a lot of the "comfort" features from the 2015 synapse, but still has the SuperSix geometry that you love. That sounds like exactly what you are looking for, to me.

evotooexpensive

No I didn't get the free Garmin. My understanding is that deal was only valid till May 31st. Or is it still active?

no beef much

I think you made a good choice if you are going to do the 200 mile rides that you mentioned. As a previous Synapse owner I switched to a Supersix. I got the 2016 Supersix Evo 105 because I wanted to try something with more aggressive geometry. Very nice package overall but the frame seems to be unchanged from 2015. It came with Aksium wheels but I already had Zondas on my other bike and liked them better.

series1811

No, May 31. Bummer. I love mine. I just have to remember to put it on the charger at the end of long rides. I have had it power off on me on a couple rides.

dtrain

...but...looking at those spacers, it seems you still have a Synapse, eh?

jaxgtr

I decided I just did not want to spend that much money for a bike again, love the SuperSix, but I actually picked up a Trek ALR today....It has an awesome carbon quality ride in my opinion and got a great deal on it.

dtrain

Brian - how could you!? I thought we were carbon synapse buddies? Ah man...what is happening.

jaxgtr

LOL....I know...I really tried to love it, I really did....but it just wasn't doing it for me. It rides nice, it's just....just not for me, it's too relaxed. Plan to move my Ultegra parts to the ALR an the 105 parts from the ALR to the Synapse, but will leave the SL-K Light crank on it....Someone will get a nice bike with essentially a new drive train and wheels.

dtrain

Actually, I felt a little too upright at first as well - and wondered if I'd purchased the wrong bike. I ordered the 5mm top bearing cover (from Cannondale) to replace the 25mm conical one. In a mostly slammed set-up, I like the Synapse quite a bit. I don't think I'd like the pre-2014 ones.

Anyway, best of luck with the ALR. They look sweet!

jaxgtr

Yea I did the same...I had buyers remorse something fierce....but all is well.