Stopped in at the LBS and found
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Stopped in at the LBS and found
they had just completed working on an interesting bike. The head badge was badly painted over so I couldnt get a brand off it.
Dual shifters on the headset control a derailleur for two gears on the rear wheel and the other one works a 3-speed hub. It also had a dyno in the hub too.
Met the owner. He likes interesting bikes. He does ride it since he did have lighting fitted to it.
-SP
Dual shifters on the headset control a derailleur for two gears on the rear wheel and the other one works a 3-speed hub. It also had a dyno in the hub too.
Met the owner. He likes interesting bikes. He does ride it since he did have lighting fitted to it.
-SP
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Where do you people find these awesome bike shops? The shops around here won't touch my 12yo suspension fork because it's too obsolete, never mind anything like the inside of a gear hub.
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Some bike shops do not work on the old stuff understandably because of the non-availability of parts. (Parts are not commercially available anymore = "obsolete"). Unless you commission/pay them specifically to do a search that can take a lot fo time and possibly internationally, beyond the labor and time to actually fix the bike.
Only way they might consider doing so otherwise, is if you come in with all the replacement parts needed to fix it. They just do not want to take on a job that they might not be able to finish....
Only way they might consider doing so otherwise, is if you come in with all the replacement parts needed to fix it. They just do not want to take on a job that they might not be able to finish....
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Sounds like some interesting gearing. What sort of topography do you enjoy around there ?
while I worked, my LBS would love it when I could dig in my parts stash and get a fix finished.
Good times !
while I worked, my LBS would love it when I could dig in my parts stash and get a fix finished.
Good times !
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The last time I was in the LBS I saw an early 1900's Schwinn. I've also seen a bamboo bike there as well as a custom made fat-trike.
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Was the bike for sale? Is it now sitting in your garage?
Bike Friday used to put the Sachs Dual Drive hubs in their bikes (3x7), and I've heard that they will service them for owners of their bikes.
Bike Friday used to put the Sachs Dual Drive hubs in their bikes (3x7), and I've heard that they will service them for owners of their bikes.
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Too bad you couldn't get a picture I'm having trouble visualizing the shifter setup. But I thought this sounded familiar because I had read about hem on Sheldon's webpage. Here is the excerpt I remembered from his page.
[h=3]Hybrid gearing[/h]
Hybrid gearing uses an internal-gear hub along with derailer gearing. Sturmey-Archer and SRAM make 3-speed hubs with splines for an 8- 9- or 10-sprocket cassette. These hubs are especially useful on bicycles which can't take a front derailer, and on small-wheel bicycles, where the hub's step-up top gear makes an oversized chainwheel unnecessary.
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Too bad you couldn't get a picture I'm having trouble visualizing the shifter setup. But I thought this sounded familiar because I had read about hem on Sheldon's webpage. Here is the excerpt I remembered from his page.
Hybrid gearing
Hybrid gearing
Hybrid gearing uses an internal-gear hub along with derailer gearing. Sturmey-Archer and SRAM make 3-speed hubs with splines for an 8- 9- or 10-sprocket cassette. These hubs are especially useful on bicycles which can't take a front derailer, and on small-wheel bicycles, where the hub's step-up top gear makes an oversized chainwheel unnecessary.
Interesting that there was a reason for the hub & cassette combination. Sheldon had a 63 speed, which he apparently built for his own amusement.
The O.T.B. currently sports a Sturmey-Archer AW 3-speed hub, with 7 sprockets, driven by 3 chainwheels: 3 x 7 x 3 = 63. When people hear that I have built a 63-speed bicycle, the first question they ask is "do you really need all those gears?"
The answer, of course, is "no.", but I don't actually need all the gears on a ten speed either. In fact, most of my riding is done on one-speed (fixed-gear) bikes. Nobody needs 63 gears, but it was an interesting and amusing mechanical challenge to put it together, and it does give a very wide range, with close spacing between ratios. There are proabably gears that this bike has never actually been ridden in!
The answer, of course, is "no.", but I don't actually need all the gears on a ten speed either. In fact, most of my riding is done on one-speed (fixed-gear) bikes. Nobody needs 63 gears, but it was an interesting and amusing mechanical challenge to put it together, and it does give a very wide range, with close spacing between ratios. There are proabably gears that this bike has never actually been ridden in!
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Interesting that there was a reason for the hub & cassette combination. Sheldon had a 63 speed, which he apparently built for his own amusement.
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Interesting that there was a reason for the hub & cassette combination. Sheldon had a 63 speed, which he apparently built for his own amusement.
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My first derailleur bike was a modified English 3-speed with two cogs and a derailleur. I just had the 3-speed trigger on the HBs and the derailleur shifter was DT best I can recall. Also centerpull brakes and dropped handlebars.
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Call me old fashioned. I like he chit-chat, sharing stories of mods, stories of epic rides......stories of the search and discovery of that holy grail bike.
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I like that stuff too but I rarely find it at my local spots. Of course being in a large metropolitan area we mostly get REI, Performance Bikes and Mike's bikes but even those types of big box bike shops should be able to give you some interesting banter. I brought my Performance branded Serotta into the Performance Bike shop near my house a while ago walked it back to the service counter and chatted with the technician for a while and not a single employee recognized what it was. Even though it says Performance in large block letters on the top tube. After I showed it to the tech he was only mildly interested.