maltess2

Hello, SRAM cranksets rings are optimized to be used with SRAM Yaw derailleurs, at least thatīs what the publicity says.

I would like to know if a SRAM Force/Rival/Red crankset is going to work perfectly with a Shimano 105 derailleur and chain, like if it was a Shimano product.

topflightpro

Didn't you already ask this question in another thread.

You will be find using a Sram crank with Shimano.

maltess2

I am asking specifically about Yaw cranks perfect functionality with Shimano, I know most combinations of different groups will be fine

rms13

And the answer is still the same as the dozen answers you got in your duplicate thread

If you're so concerned just get shimano cranks

rpenmanparker 

Perfect?

rpenmanparker 

Shimano FD will shift the chain on any brand crank of the specified ring configuration (teeth numbers, ring thickness, ring spacing = 10 or 11 speed). Good enough for your taste? Only you can say.

Are there not many stock bikes with mixed front setups?

Dan333SP

From what I understand, the "yaw" thing is just marketing terminology for their front derailleurs. Meaning that the cranks are no different than any other SRAM cranks, which are fine to use with Shimano FDs.

My bike came stock with a Tiagra FD and an Apex crank, no issues there.

rms13

OP has to look no further then his own bike that came stock with fsa cranks and 105 groupset

rms13

Here's a bike that comes stock with Ultegra group and Rival cranks.

https://www.diamondback.com/bikes-road-bikes-alternative-road-haanjo-series-haanjo-trail-carbon

Do you think they would sell something that doesn't work?

bruce19

My SRAM "yaw" Red front derailleur works fine with my Ultegra crank.

HazeT

To be honest I felt my Yaw front derailleur worked better with my previous non yaw crankset than with the new on....

rpenmanparker 

Yeah, but that is the oppostie situation to what OP is asking about.

rpenmanparker 

Yeah, but that is the opposite situation to what OP is asking about.

maltess2

Ok, some people dont get the point in this question. I am talking about the Sram X - glide chainrings, since the publicity says they are optimized por the Yaw derrailleur. I know they going to function with the shimano and other derrailleurs for sure. My question is if this optimized for Yaw X-Glide chainrings are going to work at the same level of functionality with a shimano derrailleur? maybe the answer in unknow, is the X glide going to have a different shape in dents or something like that?

rms13

No, everyone gets the point. You just don't want to accept anyone's answer that it doesn't matter. How is the answer unknown when people tell you they used different combos ans it works

maltess2

You are one of those that don get the point. I am not asking about the ok compatibility between combos.


whatever...

pdedes

i think the answer the OP wants is "no"

rms13

Exactly. He'll keep making new threads until he gets the answer he wants even when he's already been given answers by a dozen people with real world experience

Dan333SP

This is their marketing hyperbole-

"The X-GlideR Chainrings are designed for an optimized shifting performance with the Yaw front derailleur. The stiffer rings (5mm 7075-T6 aluminum CNC-machined) feature upshift rivets with an advanced design adopted from SRAM XX. CNC machining allows for precision control of each tooth shape, ramp, and nearly every shifting feature of the chainring. Chainrings, chain, and front derailleur are designed as a single integrated system for optimized performance."

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but in practice there will be absolutely 0 negative consequences of using a Shimano FD. The physical action of pushing the chain from one ring to another is no different between the derailleur brands. The Yaw FD angles itself in a way that basically eliminates rub in any gear combo, but it still pushes the chain off one ring and onto another just like a Shimano FD.

If there is any functional difference thanks to the "integrated" design, it is so small as to be imperceptible based on many people's experiences here.

Not sure what else you could be looking for, other than finding someone to tell you it just shifts like garbage unless you get a SRAM FD.

velociraptor

why would anyone want to mix their groupset components?

icky.

lennyk

some frames with shorter chainstay lengths are more likely to get front derailleur rub on either side of the middle of the cassette, my caad 10 was like this, was difficult to adjust to get more than 7 gears without compromising lower or higher gears
yaw easily solved that.

rpenmanparker 

Youngsters! What do they know? BITD Frankenbikes were the rule.

HazeT

During lunch today I told someone I wanted to buy the Red22 shifters only... and the guy: "Are you going to mix the components?" and kept staring at me with a WTF face....
And yes, I was buying the "orange 22" shifters just because the orange accent goes well with my new frame

joejack951

Were you taking advantage of the 'trim' shifts that you get with a Shimano front shifter? I managed to get almost zero chain rub even without trimming on a kid's 24" wheel road bike and Tiagra 4700. You won't find chainstays shorter than those.

lennyk

no, too lazy for that.
$40 force yaw fd solved my laziness