Rear Racks That Don't Mount on Eyelets
10-05-16, 03:12 PM
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Rear Racks That Don't Mount on Eyelets
Hi,
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
10-05-16, 04:38 PM
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Hi,
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
But there's no way that kind of rack can handle 110 lbs. The Tubus Cargo which is a much better rack and probably about the strongest rack around is only rated to 90 lb (88 lb actually which is 40kg).
Take that rating with a very, very, very large grain of salt.
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Years ago before anything was rated as anything and even today people ride around with full grown adults sitting on racks.
10-05-16, 04:57 PM
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That said, I have a rack that can go either to brake mount/seat post and QR, and I wouldn't put much more than maybe 30-40lbs on it. Less if I had a carbon seat post.
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I think BITD I saw more than 50 pounds on Pletcher rat trap racks on bikes that had already made it 2700 miles across country. I suspect that rack ratings are somewhat conservative. The problem is really with fatigue loading; they will eventually fail. Dropout eyelets are sometimes a little sketchy for large weights over time, but I don't see how other parts of the bike are much better
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I suspect that there is a translation error in that weight rating. I suspect that someone said "that rack can carry 20lbs" and someone else saw that as 20 kg which is 110 pounds.
But there's no way that kind of rack can handle 110 lbs. The Tubus Cargo which is a much better rack and probably about the strongest rack around is only rated to 90 lb (88 lb actually which is 40kg).
Take that rating with a very, very, very large grain of salt.
But there's no way that kind of rack can handle 110 lbs. The Tubus Cargo which is a much better rack and probably about the strongest rack around is only rated to 90 lb (88 lb actually which is 40kg).
Take that rating with a very, very, very large grain of salt.
https://www.amazon.com/Wakrays-Carri...rds=rear+racks
If you read the reviews people are saying they sat their 100 pound kid on it.
But I guess if it busted with your kid on it, your probably grieving (or in prison) and can't write a negative review.
10-05-16, 07:09 PM
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✔THE INCORRECT WEIGHT LIMIT (20ibs) HAS BEEN CORRECTED.
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must be copied directly from the manufacturer's brochure. same rack labeled "viment"
https://budkoo.com/p/viment-110lb-cap...1620003000a50/
"Load: 50 Kg/ 110 Lb. You can carry enough for a day trip."
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Oops
Had my own translational error. I had actually meant 50 lb (which is still too high for that rack) which can become 50 kg which then becomes 110 lb.must be copied directly from the manufacturer's brochure. same rack labeled "viment"
Best Deals - Viment 110Lb Capacity Bicycle Rear Rack Pannier Bike Luggage Cargo Rack Bicycle Carrier Racks with Reflective Logo | Budkoo!
"Load: 50 Kg/ 110 Lb. You can carry enough for a day trip."
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I have two identical racks fit front and rear. The rear fits an eyelet in the frame. The front needs a P clamp. I estimate a 50% reduction in capacity for the front rack. It might handle more but the old clamps were already distorted so I'm replacing them, and looking for a shorter rack that will use the fork's built in eyelets or the brake posts.
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In countries where bike is used as transportation, heavy duty racks are everywhere. One or more adults can sit on the rack. Such rack usually bolts to the seatpost binder bolt on the top and rear axle on the bottom.
Quick release axle and newer style seatpost binder bolt make suck racks difficult or impossible to install. There comes the compromise mounting to rear stay etc, decreasing the load rating.
Also such heavy duty rack is made of steel rods rather than tubing so they are very heavy.
In a recent trip to china, I bought a couple of these racks from a bike shop. They are heavy close to 3 lb and also the frame needs to be the right size or you have to bolt the lower legs to eyelets, decreasing the load rating.
Quick release axle and newer style seatpost binder bolt make suck racks difficult or impossible to install. There comes the compromise mounting to rear stay etc, decreasing the load rating.
Also such heavy duty rack is made of steel rods rather than tubing so they are very heavy.
In a recent trip to china, I bought a couple of these racks from a bike shop. They are heavy close to 3 lb and also the frame needs to be the right size or you have to bolt the lower legs to eyelets, decreasing the load rating.
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10-06-16, 12:42 PM
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a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
I imagine I could have put 25+ pounds in each of my 4 panniers ,
but I'd have a lot of work Getting off and Pushing it Up hills..
Maybe what you want is a Fridge Dolly Not a Bicycle..(?)
'/,
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I don't pay a lot of attention to the weight ratings. They probably are quite conservative.
Would a rack rated for 50 pounds break at 51 pounds? 52 pounds?
Once you get over 100 pounds though, it is time to start thinking about a cargo bike. And even those often aren't rated for a lot of weight. Trailer?
Would a rack rated for 50 pounds break at 51 pounds? 52 pounds?
Once you get over 100 pounds though, it is time to start thinking about a cargo bike. And even those often aren't rated for a lot of weight. Trailer?
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Hi,
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
Traditional racks like the Ibera that mount on the eyelets i.e. https://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Bicycle...e+luggage+rack are typically rated to 50 pounds.
However, I'm seeing racks like this https://www.amazon.com/Acomfort-Capa...VEHQSCAZ13F4S5 that don't mount on the eyelets near the hub, but rather directly attach to the seat post and seat stays.
Surprisingly these are often rated at well over 100 pounds.
A few questions:
a) Are any traditional racks rated to over 100 pounds.
b) Has anyone tried this type of rack before on a long tour?
Last edited by lightspree; 10-07-16 at 04:53 PM.
10-07-16, 01:40 PM
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Bigger question is why would you want to? One more thought. Look at old man mountain racks, some mount through the QR on the wheels.
