Thinking of cutting little toe off.
04-03-18, 06:36 PM
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How many grams would it save you?
04-03-18, 06:38 PM
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is your foot wider than normal? I have wide feet and the pain starts way before 60 miles with narrow shoes
04-03-18, 06:39 PM
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04-03-18, 06:41 PM
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you don't want to cut the shoe? you'd rather cut the toe? how about cycling sandals?
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04-03-18, 06:44 PM
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Back in the toe clips days, I had "little toe" slits in the sides of my Marresi's. Problem solved. Or a sharp pair of branch cutters will do the job quite cleanly and quickly.
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04-03-18, 07:00 PM
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Depending on the shoe, I believe there are devices for stretching the toe box. Perhaps that might relieve whatever is going on with your toe.
I remember a long time ago having ski boots that were too small and toes hurt like hell at the end of the day every time I used them. At the time, I couldn't afford new boots so just put up with it and used them for 3 seasons. Painful just thinking about it.
I remember a long time ago having ski boots that were too small and toes hurt like hell at the end of the day every time I used them. At the time, I couldn't afford new boots so just put up with it and used them for 3 seasons. Painful just thinking about it.
04-03-18, 07:06 PM
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Stiffer shoes, wider pedals.
Do you pronate? Counter-intuitively, you might tend to put too much weight toward the outside of the foot. A wedge could help.
Do you pronate? Counter-intuitively, you might tend to put too much weight toward the outside of the foot. A wedge could help.
04-03-18, 07:12 PM
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Sounds like the Shimano RC7 wides might be well worth it if they solve the problem. I believe my local bike shop said there were custom shoemakers out there. But they were expensive
04-03-18, 07:19 PM
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No problem whatsoever but... whatever you do-- do not remove your 5th metatarsals (the long bones in the foot between the tarsal bones of the hind/mid-foot and the phalanges (the toe bones) if you still want to walk.
04-03-18, 07:38 PM
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That may be the most important question.
When I was 17, I had a summer job solvent washing sprockets for a hobber. I dropped a sprocket on my left big toe. Not an 18t Sturmey Archer socket or something similar but a double row 60 or 80 that was about 14" in diameter and weighed a bunch. At about 35, I started to experience pain in that toe as you describe, late into long rides. Though it was the shoe or pedal or something. With time, the pain grew to be all the time and eventually, the toe would no longer bend which makes walking less than fun. at about 45, when the orthopaedic surgeon examined it, he said that almost always osteoarthritis as I experienced (diagnosed as hallux rigidis -- stiff big toe) was due to some sort of accident. Who knew? Day surgery with a local anthistetic to open it up and scrape off the limestone and more than 20 years later it still bends and I only think about it when I remeber some of the sucky jobs I had when a kid.
When I was 17, I had a summer job solvent washing sprockets for a hobber. I dropped a sprocket on my left big toe. Not an 18t Sturmey Archer socket or something similar but a double row 60 or 80 that was about 14" in diameter and weighed a bunch. At about 35, I started to experience pain in that toe as you describe, late into long rides. Though it was the shoe or pedal or something. With time, the pain grew to be all the time and eventually, the toe would no longer bend which makes walking less than fun. at about 45, when the orthopaedic surgeon examined it, he said that almost always osteoarthritis as I experienced (diagnosed as hallux rigidis -- stiff big toe) was due to some sort of accident. Who knew? Day surgery with a local anthistetic to open it up and scrape off the limestone and more than 20 years later it still bends and I only think about it when I remeber some of the sucky jobs I had when a kid.
04-03-18, 08:00 PM
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04-03-18, 08:42 PM
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Lets be practical.
Surgery to have your toes cut off will cost more than properly fitting shoes.
-Tim-
Surgery to have your toes cut off will cost more than properly fitting shoes.
-Tim-
04-03-18, 09:27 PM
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Stop using Shimano shoes? They are made by the Japanese who must have smaller feet than other people. I've always found their shoes a bit narrow. Try some European wide fit shoes (eg Sidi make wide fit shoes).
04-03-18, 09:33 PM
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Try some different shoes?
Does your toe hurt when you walk in street shoes?
Once on a winter camping trip we were drinking cheap whiskey around the campfire
and I was getting a headache. Thought it was the drink but then realized that it was from wearing two hats and a headlamp.
Good thing I didn't have my head amputated.
Does your toe hurt when you walk in street shoes?
Once on a winter camping trip we were drinking cheap whiskey around the campfire
and I was getting a headache. Thought it was the drink but then realized that it was from wearing two hats and a headlamp.
Good thing I didn't have my head amputated.
04-03-18, 09:34 PM
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This is a good point.
If the OP is actually considering having his toes removed or tries to go through with it then he has psychological problems and needs to see someone.
In Georgia there are ways a family member can intervene to shut down someone who is at risk of hurting themselves.
72 hour psychiatric hold, 1550 law, or "have someone 1013'd"
-Tim-
If the OP is actually considering having his toes removed or tries to go through with it then he has psychological problems and needs to see someone.
In Georgia there are ways a family member can intervene to shut down someone who is at risk of hurting themselves.
72 hour psychiatric hold, 1550 law, or "have someone 1013'd"
-Tim-
04-03-18, 09:39 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15997612
Psychol Med. 2005 Jun;35(6):919-28.
Desire for amputation of a limb: paraphilia, psychosis, or a new type of identity disorder.
First MB1.
Author information
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
The objective of this paper is to describe and conceptualize an unusual and probably rare condition: the intense longstanding desire to have an amputation.
METHOD:
Structured interviews were conducted by telephone of 52 subjects (mean age: 48.6, range 23-77 years; 47 male, 4 female, 1 intersexed) self-identified as having had a desire to have an amputation.
RESULTS:
Seventeen per cent (n = 9) had an arm or leg amputated with two-thirds using methods that put the subject at risk of death and one-third enlisting a surgeon to amputate their healthy limb. The most common reported reason for wanting an amputation was the subject's feeling that it would correct a mismatch between the person's anatomy and sense of his or her 'true' self (identity). None were delusional. For all but one subject age at onset was during childhood or early adolescence. For those who had psychotherapy or medication there was no change in the intensity of the desire for amputation. The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.
CONCLUSIONS:
These preliminary results suggest the existence of an extremely unusual clinically distinct condition characterized by a lifelong desire to have an amputation of a particular limb. The condition is associated with serious negative consequences: amputation attempts, impairment and marked distress. Reflecting similarities between Gender Identity Disorder and this condition, the author suggests that it may be conceptualized as an unusual dysfunction in the development one's fundamental sense of anatomical (body) identity.
Desire for amputation of a limb: paraphilia, psychosis, or a new type of identity disorder.
First MB1.
Author information
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
The objective of this paper is to describe and conceptualize an unusual and probably rare condition: the intense longstanding desire to have an amputation.
METHOD:
Structured interviews were conducted by telephone of 52 subjects (mean age: 48.6, range 23-77 years; 47 male, 4 female, 1 intersexed) self-identified as having had a desire to have an amputation.
RESULTS:
Seventeen per cent (n = 9) had an arm or leg amputated with two-thirds using methods that put the subject at risk of death and one-third enlisting a surgeon to amputate their healthy limb. The most common reported reason for wanting an amputation was the subject's feeling that it would correct a mismatch between the person's anatomy and sense of his or her 'true' self (identity). None were delusional. For all but one subject age at onset was during childhood or early adolescence. For those who had psychotherapy or medication there was no change in the intensity of the desire for amputation. The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.
CONCLUSIONS:
These preliminary results suggest the existence of an extremely unusual clinically distinct condition characterized by a lifelong desire to have an amputation of a particular limb. The condition is associated with serious negative consequences: amputation attempts, impairment and marked distress. Reflecting similarities between Gender Identity Disorder and this condition, the author suggests that it may be conceptualized as an unusual dysfunction in the development one's fundamental sense of anatomical (body) identity.
04-03-18, 09:40 PM
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Of course, he might simply be saying his toe hurts.
04-03-18, 10:13 PM
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Take an older shoe and make a slit on the side of the shoe next to the little toe. Just a slit, about the length of the toe. That will probably give you just enough room for the toe without rendering the shoe useless.
