⛍ Dooring
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⛍ Dooring
This video started me thinking. With all the advancing technology and safety going into cars these days, how come some type of door lock or warning mechanism hasn't yet been installed to prevent accidents like these from happening? I would think I'd have a huge impact on lowering insurance premiums? Not to mention cyclist would certainly appreciate it.
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It isn’t common enough to be worth the cost/effort.
Also, how would it work?
Setting up a sensor to watch for traffic from the rear - easy.
Setting up a sensor to distinguish between those who’ll plow right in and those who’ll swerve and miss will be near impossible.
One might as well have a delay, keeping the door locked for a few seconds before opening.
Also, how would it work?
Setting up a sensor to watch for traffic from the rear - easy.
Setting up a sensor to distinguish between those who’ll plow right in and those who’ll swerve and miss will be near impossible.
One might as well have a delay, keeping the door locked for a few seconds before opening.
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Or, simply an auto opening door that would open in say 3 seconds, and avoid slamming into stuff. So, an astute cyclist can adjust course when they see the door cracking.
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Car manufacturers make safety features for the occupants only. They couldn't care less about anybody else unless it causes some sort of damage to the car.
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It would have a huge impact on premiums only if insurance companies are currently paying large settlements on a lot of such accidents. I have no reason to believe this is true.
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The sensors in my Toyota alert me to passing pedestrians and cyclists all the time. I like to think I am vigilant and cautious, but it has saved me (and them) a close call more than once.
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They do this is some countries. I wish bicycle advocates would push this in the USA. (It would require state laws in USA - each state would need it's own advocacy campaign, but their could be a nationwide coordinating body to give advice to local campaigns.)
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This video started me thinking. With all the advancing technology and safety going into cars these days, how come some type of door lock or warning mechanism hasn't yet been installed to prevent accidents like these from happening? I would think I'd have a huge impact on lowering insurance premiums? Not to mention cyclist would certainly appreciate it.
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Thus, things like backup sensors and cross-traffic sensors (which can detect pedestrians).
It wouldn't take much to put in a bike lane sensor interfaced with doors. Not that one can't generally safely open a door into bicycle traffic... just make cyclists aware of the upcoming danger.
Good sensors and cameras could also prevent a person from stepping into traffic. No sense in getting the door ripped off by a passing bus, unless it is time to upgrade the car.
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Driving, you Practice what is called the "Dutch Twist"...
you open the door with the hand furthest from the door.
Left hand drive, your Right, & Right hand drive, use your Left hand.
and in doing so you are twisting your body around to see behind you..
you open the door with the hand furthest from the door.
Left hand drive, your Right, & Right hand drive, use your Left hand.
and in doing so you are twisting your body around to see behind you..
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I try to avoid those narrow car-on-the-street roads in the first place, but doing so is limited and can take you miles away from your intended route. I like the exterior warning idea, but some people just fling the door out without the slightest care as to what may be coming up next to them.
That guy on the freeway almost hit the first motor bike and still didn't check. Worst part, he wasn't even apologetic, which goes to show some folks just don't care if others get hurt by their actions.
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I have witnessed three doorings, two on me and one by a car right in front of my office window while I was looking. (That drivers was very lucky not to get hurt. The door was tossed like a wet noodle hit by a baseball bat.)
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What other considerations could there be; what could possibly go wrong?
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Sure, just always ride in the regular traffic lane, regardless of the traffic density or speed of the surrounding traffic, without a care in the world because now the cyclist is protected from parked car doorings.
What other considerations could there be; what could possibly go wrong?
What other considerations could there be; what could possibly go wrong?
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Sure, just always ride in the regular traffic lane, regardless of the traffic density or speed of the surrounding traffic, without a care in the world because now the cyclist is protected from parked car doorings.
What other considerations could there be; what could possibly go wrong?
What other considerations could there be; what could possibly go wrong?
I never, ever ride in the door zone and once or twice a year this pays off.
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And rear hinged doors are called "Suicide doors".
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in each of the instances in the video, the cyclist is the problem. sure, legally, the one opening the door may be culpable, but that doesn't do the cyclist any good when he's flopping on the deck like a fish on the beach. my point is, avoiding the door zone is on the cyclist. it is an obvious and completely avoidable hazard. we don't need cars with built-in crap to take care of the hazard. all it takes is for cyclists to be situationally aware.