Amazon Prime Delivery Vans!
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Amazon Prime Delivery Vans!
I don't know if it's just me, if it's just my area or if this is a trend everywhere. I've noticed that Amazon delivery vans pass me on my bike fast and really close without moving over. It's almost every single time. Has anyone else noticed this?
Since I first noticed this, I've noted that Fed Ex vans pass at a fair distance and speed, but UPS trucks routinely pass the safest with the farthest distance and lowest speed. I asked my office's UPS driver about this. He just said that safety is drilled into them on a regular basis.
Has anyone noticed Amazon vans routinely passing in unsafe ways?
Since I first noticed this, I've noted that Fed Ex vans pass at a fair distance and speed, but UPS trucks routinely pass the safest with the farthest distance and lowest speed. I asked my office's UPS driver about this. He just said that safety is drilled into them on a regular basis.
Has anyone noticed Amazon vans routinely passing in unsafe ways?
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We don't have them around here, but I would complain to Amazon, especially if you are a customer, they take complaints like that very seriously.
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The delivery system - Amazon especially - is getting overloaded now. I expect to see some (extra) stress in the system. (I'm not excusing it, just saying I expect it.)
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I think another factor is UPS, FedEx are corps with lots of lawyers who drilled employees on this and that. Amazon now has many independent contractors under some pretty tight schedules for deliveries. Not the best recipe.
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I see Amazon vans nearly every day in my area, and haven't had an issue yet.
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The Prime drivers are a bit more aggressive, IMO, than what is see from FedEx or UPS. Note that the FedEx Ground (green) drivers are independent driving FedEx branded trucks, while the orange overnight trucks are FedEx company vehicles.
I’d guess independents are going to not care much who complains as they know when you call Amazon it’s going to go nowhere.
I’d guess independents are going to not care much who complains as they know when you call Amazon it’s going to go nowhere.
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Now, on the other hand, at the top and steepest part of the wall on the full Tiger Tail Climb where the road is 16-18 percent and VERY narrow, a very large FedEx delivery van/truck unintentionally ran me off the road as I struggled at something like 3.5 mph.
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I haven't noticed that Amazon drivers are particularly aggressive. Quite the opposite here actually (Northwest of Atlanta, GA).
Most give me a lot of room. Most of my riding is at night due to having 3 kids. I tend to run 2-3 headlights, and 2 taillights (it's very dark here) so a lot of drivers slow down to figure out what I am doing.
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Most give me a lot of room. Most of my riding is at night due to having 3 kids. I tend to run 2-3 headlights, and 2 taillights (it's very dark here) so a lot of drivers slow down to figure out what I am doing.
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I have not noticed this at all. But if one of them does pass close to you, you should take full advantage of the opportunity to thank them for bringing you stuff in the middle of a pandemic at the risk of their own well being.
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An Amazon driver nearly clobbered me a few weeks ago. Pulled into my path from the right, never looked up from his phone or navigation device. I noticed him slow-rolling past the point where most drivers stop so I'd already begun coasting and had my hands on the brakes. I caught up with him and fussed a bit but didn't report it since it wasn't deliberate. Just careless. I suppose I didn't want him to lose his job.
But that's only one incident, not a pattern. Most Amazon drivers seem to operate pretty much like USPS, UPS and FedEx drivers.
I'm not seeing many contractors for Amazon in personal cars doing deliveries now, especially with same-day deliveries cancelled for now. No telling whether they're more negligent since their vehicles aren't marked.
But that's only one incident, not a pattern. Most Amazon drivers seem to operate pretty much like USPS, UPS and FedEx drivers.
I'm not seeing many contractors for Amazon in personal cars doing deliveries now, especially with same-day deliveries cancelled for now. No telling whether they're more negligent since their vehicles aren't marked.
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I suggest that the middle of a growing medical and economic global catastrophe is an inopportune time to introduce a discussion about your displeasure with people who are compelled by their economic circumstances to risk their lives and the lives of their families in order to deliver toilet paper right to your door.
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I don't know if it's just me, if it's just my area or if this is a trend everywhere. I've noticed that Amazon delivery vans pass me on my bike fast and really close without moving over. It's almost every single time. Has anyone else noticed this?
Since I first noticed this, I've noted that Fed Ex vans pass at a fair distance and speed, but UPS trucks routinely pass the safest with the farthest distance and lowest speed. I asked my office's UPS driver about this. He just said that safety is drilled into them on a regular basis.
Has anyone noticed Amazon vans routinely passing in unsafe ways?
Since I first noticed this, I've noted that Fed Ex vans pass at a fair distance and speed, but UPS trucks routinely pass the safest with the farthest distance and lowest speed. I asked my office's UPS driver about this. He just said that safety is drilled into them on a regular basis.
Has anyone noticed Amazon vans routinely passing in unsafe ways?
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Amazon Prime Delivery Vans
This topic was discussed in a similar pre-COVID-19 thread, 9/6/19:
This topic was discussed in a similar pre-COVID-19 thread, 9/6/19:
"White tall Amazon vans"
Thanks to @Joe Bikerider for starting this thread. Just minutes before reading this thread, I read an article very similar to the article cited by [MENTION=137683]mr.bill[/MENTION], a fellow Metro Bostonian. Indeed I was getting ready to cite it myself:
The human cost of Amazon's fast, free shipping
Previous critical articles I have read in the past few months concerned the relentless pressure on Amazon employees in the warehouses to fill the orders.
So before the cell phones became new distractions to drivers, were alcohol,sleepiness, inattention or whatever, and now a new class of hazards is emerging.
mr.bill’s article cites not only auto crashes, but also pedestrian incidents, as well as Amazon’s strategy to shift / diffuse liabilities on to the subcontractors, and even a blurred out photo of a white tall Amazon van involved in a crash.
How soon before we read of cyclists’ envelopment?
Thanks to @Joe Bikerider for starting this thread. Just minutes before reading this thread, I read an article very similar to the article cited by [MENTION=137683]mr.bill[/MENTION], a fellow Metro Bostonian. Indeed I was getting ready to cite it myself:
The human cost of Amazon's fast, free shipping
Previous critical articles I have read in the past few months concerned the relentless pressure on Amazon employees in the warehouses to fill the orders.
So before the cell phones became new distractions to drivers, were alcohol,sleepiness, inattention or whatever, and now a new class of hazards is emerging.
mr.bill’s article cites not only auto crashes, but also pedestrian incidents, as well as Amazon’s strategy to shift / diffuse liabilities on to the subcontractors, and even a blurred out photo of a white tall Amazon van involved in a crash.
How soon before we read of cyclists’ envelopment?
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I haven't noticed them driving differently except that there's at least one around here which runs stop signs, not even a slow-down. Maybe just one driver, which makes more sense.
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