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Old 10-12-22, 10:01 AM
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Electrolysis for rust removal on 1940 Schwinn?

Hey guys, I picked up this heavily rusted 1940 Schwinn DX frame. I don’t have access to a media blaster but I do have everything needed for an electrolysis tub. Before I proceed, is there any reason to avoid this method to strip the frame down to clean metal? Thanks



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I would definitely remove all the bits (headset cups, headbadge, etc) that you can. I'm not sure how electrolysis affects the fillet (brass), but I have used it before to great success with rusty tools.
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Yes, definitely planning to take off the badge, cups and tensioners. Thanks!
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This looks like a worthy job. I would remove everything then take it to a chrome plating shop and have them do a dip in one of thier big acid baths. I have always though about preserving petina by putting a couple coats of Penitrol on the raw metal after chemically stripping off the rust
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I'll repeat what I read when researching such things: do not use electrolysis on parts with chrome. The results are nasty in a toxic SuperFund MethLab kind of way. For your purposes it looks like you'd be fine if you remove the headset and bottom bracket cups.
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As you are likely aware, electrolysis only works "line of sight." Corrosion will only be removed from surfaces where a straight line extends from the anode to cathode

No internal rust will be removed, and perhaps some sections of the external surface will not be addressed.
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Can you imagine the total current required to electrolyze an entire frame all at once. I bet it is a HUGE number.

What voltage is needed to remove iron oxide?

I was thinking oxalic acid bath in a kiddie pool would work and be easier.

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Electrolysis is only line of sight and it will need to be rotated often to get it all.
It will not take much current, but I use a 12v battery charger and some old fence post as my anode.
If you put the anode in line with the tube opening it will take some of the rust out.
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Media blasting would be ideal (to my eye) but I would try wrapping sections with cloth towels soaked with Evaporust.
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Evaporust or at least oxolic acid
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For a whole frame, I'd use oxalic acid. A kiddie pool could work. Another option to cut one side off a bicycle frame box, making a clam shell out of the box. Line the clam shell with a watertight tarp and fill with your oxalic acid mix. Doing it with Evaporust will be expensive.
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I saw an interesting oxalic acid/evaporust technique on a bike restoration youtube channel. The person created a 'floating bath' by filling a kiddie pool most of the way with water. They placed a waterproof tarp over this, then put a frame on the tarp and poured evaporust over it until submerged. Used much less evaporust liquid this way than filling an entire container with it. Sorry I don't have a link.

No experience using electrolysis. That's a beautiful frame, good luck!
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