Took a chance: Campy drop bolt from Poland
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Took a chance: Campy drop bolt from Poland
Some of you know I've been hoping to find a Campy front drop bolt to use on my Paramount. I found some "new old stock" listed on a few of the usual online places but I was sure they weren't old. Digging further they seem to be coming from Poland, and were available for 38 USD shipped on racevelo.com so I decided to take a chance. The site threw some unencrypted data errors, and I never got an order acknowledgement so I was doubting the wisdom of my actions but a few days later I got shipping info from the Polish mail service. Today the package arrived:
Wrapped in 4 layers of food advertisements, it looks good...
Its a good fit. Spring pressed in just right. Top view.
Side view
It's a perfect fit for the frame drilling and blends right in.
I won't be able to ride it until next weekend, but I have every reason to expect it will perform as it should. Bottom line: if anyone's in the market - this one looks like it works and it doesn't break the bank (much).
Wrapped in 4 layers of food advertisements, it looks good...
Its a good fit. Spring pressed in just right. Top view.
Side view
It's a perfect fit for the frame drilling and blends right in.
I won't be able to ride it until next weekend, but I have every reason to expect it will perform as it should. Bottom line: if anyone's in the market - this one looks like it works and it doesn't break the bank (much).
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That looks very nice and appears to be nicely made. Installed, it just disappears (as it should).
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The food wrapper is so clear it almost looked like you laid the piece on a roll.
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Some of you know I've been hoping to find a Campy front drop bolt to use on my Paramount. I found some "new old stock" listed on a few of the usual online places but I was sure they weren't old. Digging further they seem to be coming from Poland, and were available for 38 USD shipped on racevelo.com so I decided to take a chance.
Fun Fact, Campy never made a front drop bolt. Any fronts that you find are aftermarket. A rear, with its shorter shaft, can be used in front if you drill the back of the crown and use the extended nut that reaches deep into the crown. Concours points lost on a nice vintage bike that's supposed to have the nut on the outside of the crown like God intended, but 100% functional.
Ya know though, I can tell from your pic that this brake would have reached even without the dropper. They drop you by 6 mm, and you have that much slot below the pad. Did you just not like the braking with the pads all the way down? You do get a bit more mechanical advantage (leverage) with this setup, at the cost of fender clearance.
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Looks good, perhaps share more clearly the site.
BUT…
that is a short reach caliper.
my hunch as the pads are now at the midpoint of the adjustment…
a normal reach caliper would have worked.
this is a normal reach caliper - pads are about mid adjustment.
BUT…
that is a short reach caliper.
my hunch as the pads are now at the midpoint of the adjustment…
a normal reach caliper would have worked.
this is a normal reach caliper - pads are about mid adjustment.
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I listed a very nice front normal reach on eBay last week. Still unsold, but hoping to get at least $150.
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Very nice. Super clean OEM look. I just couldn't do it for the ~$40 I'm finding on eBay. Which is really silly considering how much I've peed away on other things.
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Fun Fact, Campy never made a front drop bolt. Any fronts that you find are aftermarket. A rear, with its shorter shaft, can be used in front if you drill the back of the crown and use the extended nut that reaches deep into the crown. Concours points lost on a nice vintage bike that's supposed to have the nut on the outside of the crown like God intended, but 100% functional.
Ya know though, I can tell from your pic that this brake would have reached even without the dropper. They drop you by 6 mm, and you have that much slot below the pad. Did you just not like the braking with the pads all the way down? You do get a bit more mechanical advantage (leverage) with this setup, at the cost of fender clearance.
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Ya know though, I can tell from your pic that this brake would have reached even without the dropper. They drop you by 6 mm, and you have that much slot below the pad. Did you just not like the braking with the pads all the way down? You do get a bit more mechanical advantage (leverage) with this setup, at the cost of fender clearance.
Mark B
Originally Posted by repechage
Looks good, perhaps share more clearly the site.
BUT…
that is a short reach caliper.
my hunch as the pads are now at the midpoint of the adjustment…
a normal reach caliper would have worked.
BUT…
that is a short reach caliper.
my hunch as the pads are now at the midpoint of the adjustment…
a normal reach caliper would have worked.
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I’m confident it’s the same seller on the site I listed above, 30USD + 8 shipping. He’s also selling them on Etsy. I suppose those are Artisinal.
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I said the brake would reach without the dropbolt.
Oops sorry, never mind! My eye-crometer needs recalibrating.
Though if it's that small a discrepancy, I have no qualms with extending the slots downward with a chainsaw file. The metal you remove is lightly stressed and extremely unlikely to cause a problem. I even had a Weinmann that cracked there, due to a manufacturing defect as far as I can tell (not filed), and it stayed that way, on a bike I rode frequently for 30-some years. Even with some heavy-ish loads sometimes (it was a grocery-getter). The crack never opened up any further, though it was broken clear through, at the bottom of the slot. Confirming to me that the metal is nearly unstressed there.
I didn't notice the brake was a Piccolo. That is a quirky combo, Piccolo + dropbolt, but it definitely gets you down the road.
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Though if it's that small a discrepancy, I have no qualms with extending the slots downward with a chainsaw file. The metal you remove is lightly stressed and extremely unlikely to cause a problem. I even had a Weinmann that cracked there, due to a manufacturing defect as far as I can tell (not filed), and it stayed that way, on a bike I rode frequently for 30-some years. Even with some heavy-ish loads sometimes (it was a grocery-getter). The crack never opened up any further, though it was broken clear through, at the bottom of the slot. Confirming to me that the metal is nearly unstressed there.
I didn't notice the brake was a Piccolo. That is a quirky combo, Piccolo + dropbolt, but it definitely gets you down the road.
Mark B
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I said the brake would reach without the dropbolt.
Oops sorry, never mind! My eye-crometer needs recalibrating.
Though if it's that small a discrepancy, I have no qualms with extending the slots downward with a chainsaw file. The metal you remove is lightly stressed and extremely unlikely to cause a problem. I even had a Weinmann that cracked there, due to a manufacturing defect as far as I can tell (not filed), and it stayed that way, on a bike I rode frequently for 30-some years. Even with some heavy-ish loads sometimes (it was a grocery-getter). The crack never opened up any further, though it was broken clear through, at the bottom of the slot. Confirming to me that the metal is nearly unstressed there.
I didn't notice the brake was a Piccolo. That is a quirky combo, Piccolo + dropbolt, but it definitely gets you down the road.
Mark B
Oops sorry, never mind! My eye-crometer needs recalibrating.
Though if it's that small a discrepancy, I have no qualms with extending the slots downward with a chainsaw file. The metal you remove is lightly stressed and extremely unlikely to cause a problem. I even had a Weinmann that cracked there, due to a manufacturing defect as far as I can tell (not filed), and it stayed that way, on a bike I rode frequently for 30-some years. Even with some heavy-ish loads sometimes (it was a grocery-getter). The crack never opened up any further, though it was broken clear through, at the bottom of the slot. Confirming to me that the metal is nearly unstressed there.
I didn't notice the brake was a Piccolo. That is a quirky combo, Piccolo + dropbolt, but it definitely gets you down the road.
Mark B
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Interesting, I was looking at a 50's frame and that had drop bolts front and rear. I just guessed that both were Campy, giving the frame was being sold with the calipers.
Now I'm thinking that, at least the front bolt must have been Diacomp.
Shimano also made a drop bolt, I have one for the rear. I am not aware if Shimano made a long bolt version.
Now I'm thinking that, at least the front bolt must have been Diacomp.
Shimano also made a drop bolt, I have one for the rear. I am not aware if Shimano made a long bolt version.