RE: prescription insoles, WOW what a difference!
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RE: prescription insoles, WOW what a difference!
I've had prescription insoles for 8 years now for my ridiculously flat feet. I had not ever put them in my Genius 5's while riding. I did this morning on my way home from work. The difference is unbelievable! Every revolution felt a ton stronger. I'm excited, this may be what I've been missing as far as my pedaling technique.
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In the book "Bike For Life", the authors interview a bike fitter who thinks "custom" insoles are crucial to using clip-in pedals safely and in comfort.
But, yikes, the cost. Yet, the cost of not taking care of your feet might be higher.
But, yikes, the cost. Yet, the cost of not taking care of your feet might be higher.
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it's great even for those of us without the need for prescription orthotics - I use the sidas conformable ones and no more hotspots, sore feet and numb toes - and they cost less than 1/10 of prescription ones
https://www.sidas.com/index.adml?id=3...12&r=437&l=111
https://www.sidas.com/index.adml?id=3...12&r=437&l=111
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jorpe,
where did you get your prescription from? i'm flat footed and would like to get some good insoles. i switched over to biking because my knees started to hurt from running. i used some off-the shelf insole, but I tend to get some hot spots/blisters from them.
where did you get your prescription from? i'm flat footed and would like to get some good insoles. i switched over to biking because my knees started to hurt from running. i used some off-the shelf insole, but I tend to get some hot spots/blisters from them.
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I have flat feet and when I was running cross country many years ago, I had a pair of orthotics made by the Podiatrist. Years later my bike fitter said I needed to put the orthotics in the SIDI Genius 5 shoes.
The main reason was to get the right muscles working on the down stroke. Somehow with flat feet, the muscles aren't being used to its full potential. I don't know if all this is true but I have them in the shoe. I honestly cannot tell one way or another. To me, the feet still flatten out on the down stroke.
The main reason was to get the right muscles working on the down stroke. Somehow with flat feet, the muscles aren't being used to its full potential. I don't know if all this is true but I have them in the shoe. I honestly cannot tell one way or another. To me, the feet still flatten out on the down stroke.
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I have flat feet, and have been using prescription orthotics for years in my street shoes, but in my athletic equipment: hockey skates, ski boots, and cycling shoes (also Sidi Genius, though the 4s), I use grey Superfeet. They rock. https://www.superfeet.com/
Jorpe, from our ride a couple weeks ago (I know, I still owe you pics), the only thing I really noticed was your stroke wasn't in circles, and on the steeper pitches when you geared way down it was (IMHO) working against you; you seemed to be bouncing around too much trying to spin up the hill. I think you can try a gear or two harder, and focus on pedaling in a circle. On your commute, try it by pedaling with one foot. You'll notice right away that the bike surges with each downstroke. Try to even it out so there isn't any surging. Thirty seconds at a time with each leg is a good place to start, and work up from there (say, once a week)....
Jorpe, from our ride a couple weeks ago (I know, I still owe you pics), the only thing I really noticed was your stroke wasn't in circles, and on the steeper pitches when you geared way down it was (IMHO) working against you; you seemed to be bouncing around too much trying to spin up the hill. I think you can try a gear or two harder, and focus on pedaling in a circle. On your commute, try it by pedaling with one foot. You'll notice right away that the bike surges with each downstroke. Try to even it out so there isn't any surging. Thirty seconds at a time with each leg is a good place to start, and work up from there (say, once a week)....
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Originally Posted by cynergy
jorpe,
where did you get your prescription from? i'm flat footed and would like to get some good insoles. i switched over to biking because my knees started to hurt from running. i used some off-the shelf insole, but I tend to get some hot spots/blisters from them.
where did you get your prescription from? i'm flat footed and would like to get some good insoles. i switched over to biking because my knees started to hurt from running. i used some off-the shelf insole, but I tend to get some hot spots/blisters from them.
I tried the WalkFit orthotics and found they were much harder then any over the counter product. At first, I was worried because my left foot was in bad shape and it could feel the pressure. After a while, I got used to them and the hot spots are gone! I still feel my feet are healing and getting better with time. My big toe no longer hurts when I walk and I'm thinking of changing the support insert from high to medium. I'm surprised this product works and it only cost $20.00 dollars
https://www.walkfit.com/
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Buy a durable pair of orthotics and they last a life time. You can also buy cheaper sneakers from then on. They actually make Wal*Mart knockoff Converse Chucks comfortable (I buy a size larger than I need).
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Okay, I got my orthotics when I went through rehab for a reconstructed ACL 9 years ago now.
A couple other things were holding me back. I changed those today:
1. My seat was too far back.
2. Only having one water bottle cage made it hurt my back to have a couple gatorade bottles in my jersey pockets.
3. I finally stepped up and went all lycra and polyester today. I wont go back!
Some notes:
I think Turin lays goatheads outside of their doors so you have to buy a tube every time you go in there.
A Castelli "Large" Jersey is NOT the same as a large jersey from some stateside company.
Wash Park is a hot spot for beautiful single women.
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A couple other things were holding me back. I changed those today:
1. My seat was too far back.
2. Only having one water bottle cage made it hurt my back to have a couple gatorade bottles in my jersey pockets.
3. I finally stepped up and went all lycra and polyester today. I wont go back!
Some notes:
I think Turin lays goatheads outside of their doors so you have to buy a tube every time you go in there.
A Castelli "Large" Jersey is NOT the same as a large jersey from some stateside company.
Wash Park is a hot spot for beautiful single women.
I'm ridiculously good looking.
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat
I have flat feet and when I was running cross country many years ago, I had a pair of orthotics made by the Podiatrist. Years later my bike fitter said I needed to put the orthotics in the SIDI Genius 5 shoes.
The main reason was to get the right muscles working on the down stroke. Somehow with flat feet, the muscles aren't being used to its full potential. I don't know if all this is true but I have them in the shoe. I honestly cannot tell one way or another. To me, the feet still flatten out on the down stroke.
The main reason was to get the right muscles working on the down stroke. Somehow with flat feet, the muscles aren't being used to its full potential. I don't know if all this is true but I have them in the shoe. I honestly cannot tell one way or another. To me, the feet still flatten out on the down stroke.
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Originally Posted by superdex
I have flat feet, and have been using prescription orthotics for years in my street shoes, but in my athletic equipment: hockey skates, ski boots, and cycling shoes (also Sidi Genius, though the 4s), I use grey Superfeet. They rock. https://www.superfeet.com/
Jorpe, from our ride a couple weeks ago (I know, I still owe you pics), the only thing I really noticed was your stroke wasn't in circles, and on the steeper pitches when you geared way down it was (IMHO) working against you; you seemed to be bouncing around too much trying to spin up the hill. I think you can try a gear or two harder, and focus on pedaling in a circle. On your commute, try it by pedaling with one foot. You'll notice right away that the bike surges with each downstroke. Try to even it out so there isn't any surging. Thirty seconds at a time with each leg is a good place to start, and work up from there (say, once a week)....
Jorpe, from our ride a couple weeks ago (I know, I still owe you pics), the only thing I really noticed was your stroke wasn't in circles, and on the steeper pitches when you geared way down it was (IMHO) working against you; you seemed to be bouncing around too much trying to spin up the hill. I think you can try a gear or two harder, and focus on pedaling in a circle. On your commute, try it by pedaling with one foot. You'll notice right away that the bike surges with each downstroke. Try to even it out so there isn't any surging. Thirty seconds at a time with each leg is a good place to start, and work up from there (say, once a week)....
Seriously though, thank you for that advice. I think just putting the insoles in my shoes made me pedal more correctly. I concentrated on making sure I was firing my legs up on the upstroke, not doing it passively. My averages on the same trail went up almost 3mph just in the last 2 rides. I also took my bike back to Bicycle Village and when they did whatever tuneup they did it became much easier to switch between rings so I wasn't missing strokes going uphill
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it's great even for those of us without the need for prescription orthotics - I use the sidas conformable ones and no more hotspots, sore feet and numb toes - and they cost less than 1/10 of prescription ones
https://www.sidas.com/index.adml?id=3...12&r=437&l=111
https://www.sidas.com/index.adml?id=3...12&r=437&l=111
Do you conform these insoles yourself, or do you have them done at (apparently, judging from the dealer list) a ski boot place?
What was the cost?
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They're most definitely worth it and so much cheaper than going to a foot specialist.
edit - sorry, I actually got it done at a bike shop but it's the only bike shop I know of with the moulding kit - almost every ski shop has the same kit though.
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these guy's are rumored to be the best in London at doing the fitting
https://www.profeet.co.uk/f_footwearsuppliers.asp
https://www.profeet.co.uk/f_footwearsuppliers.asp
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looks like there's a dealer in Joisey
https://www.thesozegroup.com/dealer/index.php
ALMOS ALPINE SKI SHOP
3206 FIRE ROAD
EGG HARBOR TWS NEW JERSEY USA Phone (609) 641-1211
Fax (609) 383-0581
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Fax (609) 383-0581
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Your custom orthotic more than likely has a perfectly placed metatarsal arch pad. The metatarsal arch is what contacts the pedal if your foot is correctly placed. This is why you like it so much. bk
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You might want to try these as well. https://www2.yoursole.com/home