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Old 12-04-08, 11:49 AM
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Wire bead or folding tire

Which kind of tire do you prefer? I read folding tires are lighter and a little dearer. Is it a myth that their easier to install ?

Ps: if you like other types of tires (this is aimed at tubby people), then I'm afraid there is no 3rd choice. The conclusion being, I only wanna hear from normal people.
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dearer?

I have run only foldables since my second road bike. I don't find them any easier or harder to put on, but they are quite a bit lighter.
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I read folding tires are lighter and a little dearer.
 
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I prefer the folders, just because they are easier to carry, on and off the bike.
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Why is this even a debate? The difference in price is negligible, but the folding tyres are a lot lighter, and I find them easier to put on. They are also easier to carry home from the bike shop.
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Wire bead only when there is no other viable option.
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prefer folding, lighter faster etc, but i think my armadillo training tyres on fixed wheel bike for bad weather are bead.
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Folding = lighter weight
Wire = cheaper

If you have good technique, neither should be really hard to install.
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dearer, from dictionary.com

high-priced; expensive:
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the best clincher tyres are folding. gp4000s, pro3race, etc etc.
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I prefer folders, but there are some pretty decent wire-bead tyres out there.

Ease of installation has more to do with sizing of different manufacturers of both tyres and rims. Get a large sized rim and a small sized tyre bead and you're in for a struggle. That's all.
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I have one of each on my bike right now. Either one can be installed by hand and taken off with one lever.
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Originally Posted by Randochap
I prefer folders, but there are some pretty decent wire-bead tyres out there.

Ease of installation has more to do with sizing of different manufacturers of both tyres and rims. Get a large sized rim and a small sized tyre bead and you're in for a struggle. That's all.
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I used Krylion folding, installation seemed ok to me.
Now I'm using Gatorskin wired, installation is a little easier than Krylion.
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Old 11-18-09, 06:36 AM
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Just changed from folding tire to steel wire ones and have noticed a drop in average speed.
Is this just my imagination,or has anyone else experienced this.Both sets are the same spec rubbino's
apart from the above
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Are you sure the tires are the exact same size?
Might need to change your computer setting?
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yes,as I said they are the same in every way,even the color.
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Wire beads are easier to install since I like putting the tube in the tire with a tiny bit of air in it, then mounting both at the same time. Wire beads hold their shape better. Reduces pinching and folded or crimped tubes.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
Reduces pinching and folded or crimped tubes.
To reduce pinching-folding-crimping, etc.

Supplies required: tubes, 1 gal ziploc bag and talc baby powder.

Procedure:
Sprinkle about 1/2 teaspoon of talc into the bag and put the deflated tubes inside. Make sure valve caps are on, no need of getting powder into the valves. No harm but no need, really.
Close bag with some air trapped inside, so it is nice and pillowy. Shake the bejesus of the whole thing, massaging it periodically to spread talc evenly. Take your time. Add talc if necessary.
This step gets messy: have tire half-installed on the rim, one bead already set. Put the tube inside. Set the other bead. Inflate. Watch miracles happen.

Have fun

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Originally Posted by brundle_fly
Just changed from folding tire to steel wire ones and have noticed a drop in average speed.
Is this just my imagination,or has anyone else experienced this.Both sets are the same spec rubbino's
apart from the above
Wire bead tires are noticeably heavier (all other things being equal). The tires will feel more sluggish when you are accelerating hard. Once you get up to speed, the weight should be insignificant on flat roads. On a long mountain climb, you may be slightly slower (less than 1 minute per hour or climbing).
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Old 11-18-09, 11:13 AM
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The latest thing I heard specifically about Conti Gatorskin is the wire-bead model is more reliable than the folding version.
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Originally Posted by mustang1
The latest thing I heard specifically about Conti Gatorskin is the wire-bead model is more reliable than the folding version.
I've been using folding Gatorskins for years with no problems. The rubber often wears down all the way to the cords without any flats or other issues.
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Old 11-18-09, 01:34 PM
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On the road bike, folding only. My touring bike has wire beads (haven't changed them yet - weight of the bead is so inconsequential on that bike...), but I carry a folding as a spare when I'm on tour. My town bike has wire beads cause they are cheaper.
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