Need an anti pick lock!!!
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Need an anti pick lock!!!
Hello fellas. I live in the UK and I own an Abus plus which is the one with the hardened water-proof disk padlock and comparatively thick chain. Where I leave my bike there is comparatively little danger (I used to leave my bike unlocked and I still have it). However my old bike was sh1tty and I bought a new $1000 bike and I don't want some crackhead to steal it. As I said I've got the Abus but I saw a video on YouTube where they open it for like 30 seconds. Mine is not exactly the same. It has a different key - it's not like a door key, it's more like a car key like the key in THIS Most thieves here try and pick the lock and not cut through the chain etc. So I need a really anti-pick padlock. I was thinking of this one. It is a motorbike lock:
https://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?Scree...4003318201820m
Where I will just buy the padlock and use my current chain with 2 padlocks
. It will run me another 120-140$ but what can I do. Here is a padlock similar in looks to mine. In the documentation of my lock it says that it is anti-pick. As I said mine has a different locking system because of the different key:
Anyway I don't know what to do. The lock says it is anti-pick but I feel insecure like a woman. lol.
https://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?Scree...4003318201820m
Where I will just buy the padlock and use my current chain with 2 padlocks
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Anyway I don't know what to do. The lock says it is anti-pick but I feel insecure like a woman. lol.
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Take your lock to a locksmith and see what he has to say about it's security. Not sure I believe many youtube videos which seem to be designed to make us all paranoid. Too easy to fake many of them.
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Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about how susceptible the lock is to being picked as long as you're using a high-quality well built lock. That is likely the most difficult and time consuming method that a thief can use to compromise your locking system (locks, chains, and anything else you use to secure your bike). This is typically the last thing that a thief will attempt when doing a bike grab. It's akin to worrying about how good the locks are on the doors on your home, when the door is next to those two big windows in the front of your house.
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If you really want high 'pick' and 'bump' resistance, use something like a MULTI-LOCK or MEDECO product.
I have been a locksmith for a long time, and these locks are worth every penny if you can afford them and really want high security.
Buy one from a local locksmith if at all possible.
Pair one of these with a heavy duty, hardened steel hex chain.
https://www.mul-t-lock-online.com/ese...acturers_id=10
https://www.medeco.com/products/produ...ategory_ID=27&
And a long thread on bike locks:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=520597
I have been a locksmith for a long time, and these locks are worth every penny if you can afford them and really want high security.
Buy one from a local locksmith if at all possible.
Pair one of these with a heavy duty, hardened steel hex chain.
https://www.mul-t-lock-online.com/ese...acturers_id=10
https://www.medeco.com/products/produ...ategory_ID=27&
And a long thread on bike locks:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=520597
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crawdaddio,
Since you mention 'bump' resistance... I'm familiar with the principle behind the lock bump: Jostle the pin stacks coupled with some light rotational pressure and you'll catch them all at an "open" position on their return. With a dual sided key (like the ABUS) which appears to move twin sets of tumblers at 180 degrees from each other, would a bump actually work (since you're only jostling one set of pins in the right direction when you do it)?
Since you mention 'bump' resistance... I'm familiar with the principle behind the lock bump: Jostle the pin stacks coupled with some light rotational pressure and you'll catch them all at an "open" position on their return. With a dual sided key (like the ABUS) which appears to move twin sets of tumblers at 180 degrees from each other, would a bump actually work (since you're only jostling one set of pins in the right direction when you do it)?
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Abus has many types of keyways, so I'm not sure which one you are referring to.
If someone has access to manufacturer specific key blanks and cutting machines, they can make 'bump' keys and use them successfully (if they have the skill) on 'almost' any type of lock out there.
Restricted key blanks (and machines to cut them), such as the ones that the above linked locks use, are impossible for anyone except locksmiths to purchase. This is one way that 'bumping' is prevented.
If someone has access to manufacturer specific key blanks and cutting machines, they can make 'bump' keys and use them successfully (if they have the skill) on 'almost' any type of lock out there.
Restricted key blanks (and machines to cut them), such as the ones that the above linked locks use, are impossible for anyone except locksmiths to purchase. This is one way that 'bumping' is prevented.
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If you're talking about the same youtube video I've seen recently using a pop can don't worry. Notice that they use a really cheap combination lock. This is because that's the only grade of lock that this method will work on. Good grade locks cannot be opened that way.