Spinning v. riding
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Spinning v. riding
I'm curious to hear from those that both spin and do regular road riding, how it compares from a purely physical standpoint. I'm new to biking, and given the cold weather in northeast, have been doing a fair amount of spinning to get in shape. So just curious how the two compare. Thanks.
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The major physical difference is the momentum of the spin wheel allows you to "cheat" through the pedal stroke. Totally different stroke dynamic- unless you crank up the resistance on the spin bike, it's hard to keep good stroke form at higher RPM by applying force throughout the stroke- the momentum just kicks the leg around at weaker points in the cycle- think fixie. Whether it's a good workout depends on what your goals are. Most racers you ask will turn their noses up at spin class- as it usually does not fit into their training regimen well. However, you can get a great aerobic workout, and learning to keep the hips and shoulders quiet at high rpms is a good lesson. On rare occasion you can find a roadie, running road training spin classes- more traditional cycling workouts than the sweatfests you usually get at spin. All that said, it beats not working out at all!
Edit: The class I go to lets people bring their bike and trainer- if the teacher knows enough to call out gear ratios and/or percent efforts, that is a superior workout in my opinion.
Edit: The class I go to lets people bring their bike and trainer- if the teacher knows enough to call out gear ratios and/or percent efforts, that is a superior workout in my opinion.
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It all depends on the class. I've been to spinning classes that push me more than I would on the road. Then I've beennto classes that are very easy. You can make it as hard as you want.
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I think they're a good adjunct. We have Keiser spin bikes with magnetic resistance (instead of friction pads) and have readouts for estimated watts and calories. I routinely destroy myself on a spin bike in 60 min. and register 1000+ cal. (estimated) per session. Regarding SoCar's comment on "cheating" unless you "crank up the resistance" - I've not noticed any momentum at the resistances I use.
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bike trainers/spin bikes have the issue of not cooling the user. Normally, you're moving through the air. I like my KK Road Machine. It takes a big fan to keep me cool, though.
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I use the spinning bike in the winter, really rainy days, and when I want to whoop my but so hard that I would fall over on the road bike working that hard.
I find it to be a good training tool.
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I spin once a week, it's really good to keep you focused on breathing and posture. Since you don't have to pay attention to how close you are to someones wheel or road obstacles it really helps you focus.
It's a great aerobic workout, no doubt about that, but it doesn't beat riding on the road.
It's a great aerobic workout, no doubt about that, but it doesn't beat riding on the road.
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The one thing from my spin class that improved my road riding significantly is riding out of the saddle. I did not have the discipline to stay out of the saddle long enough on the road to improve much. Spin class forced longer times out of the saddle. Great carry over to real riding.
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I hate riding on a trainer...it is just so boring! I know everyone listens to music and some watch movies. the key for me is to focus and on doing intervals, otherwise it just doesn't feel like I get much of a workout. and nothing comes close to real riding!
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Spin class is great when the weather sucks. Nothing better than actual bike riding. Spin class is a good aerobic exercise but isn't the same as real riding. Spin class is as hard // intense as you want to make it. I spin when I can't ride. I need lots of fans and air or I melt. Spin on but get on the road ASAP.
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It does depend on the class. I've done three spinning classes, two were really good, one wasn't so good.
I did the spinning classes during the winter and found them to be a good way to keep in shape when cycling outside was less than desireable (dark, cold, icy, etc.). The first class was in a recreational centre and I also joined the gym there. I did the class twice a week, and after class I walked around the walking track several times to cool down a bit, and then lifted weights.
In 2007, I trained for Hell Week in April in the Vancouver area by attending spinning classes twice a week (and doing the weights), riding my trainer for about an hour on a couple other days during the week, and riding my trainer for 2-3 hours on the weekends.
In 2008, I trained for a hilly 600 km tour in February in Australia by attending spinning classes once a week (the one that wasn't so good, but I did my own thing a lot of the time), riding the stationary bicycles in the gym 3 other days, rowing in the gym 3 days a week, walking 5 days a week, and riding my trainer for 2-3 hours on the weekends.
I did the spinning classes during the winter and found them to be a good way to keep in shape when cycling outside was less than desireable (dark, cold, icy, etc.). The first class was in a recreational centre and I also joined the gym there. I did the class twice a week, and after class I walked around the walking track several times to cool down a bit, and then lifted weights.
In 2007, I trained for Hell Week in April in the Vancouver area by attending spinning classes twice a week (and doing the weights), riding my trainer for about an hour on a couple other days during the week, and riding my trainer for 2-3 hours on the weekends.
In 2008, I trained for a hilly 600 km tour in February in Australia by attending spinning classes once a week (the one that wasn't so good, but I did my own thing a lot of the time), riding the stationary bicycles in the gym 3 other days, rowing in the gym 3 days a week, walking 5 days a week, and riding my trainer for 2-3 hours on the weekends.
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I spin once a week, it's really good to keep you focused on breathing and posture. Since you don't have to pay attention to how close you are to someones wheel or road obstacles it really helps you focus.
It's a great aerobic workout, no doubt about that, but it doesn't beat riding on the road.
It's a great aerobic workout, no doubt about that, but it doesn't beat riding on the road.
I attend pretty intense spin classes 2 - 3x a week. While it doesn't compare to being out on the road and dealing with wind/terrain/etc, it's a great workout.
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Whether it's a good workout depends on what your goals are. Most racers you ask will turn their noses up at spin class- as it usually does not fit into their training regimen well. However, you can get a great aerobic workout, and learning to keep the hips and shoulders quiet at high rpms is a good lesson. On rare occasion you can find a roadie, running road training spin classes- more traditional cycling workouts than the sweatfests you usually get at spin. All that said, it beats not working out at all!
Edit: The class I go to lets people bring their bike and trainer- if the teacher knows enough to call out gear ratios and/or percent efforts, that is a superior workout in my opinion.
Edit: The class I go to lets people bring their bike and trainer- if the teacher knows enough to call out gear ratios and/or percent efforts, that is a superior workout in my opinion.
I'll grant that it depends on the instructor, but most of the ones I've done, the instructors appeared to know little about actually riding a bike; the various drills and psotures they wanted had more to do with "toning muscles" than training to ride. And the structure of the intervals was all over the place, designed tomake you sweat, but not really targeted to improving a particular energy system.
All that said, they tend to be hard workouts because of the group motiviational thing, which is good.
But if you're self motivated, you'll see bigger gains working a structured program on the trainer. I would definitely not do spin as my primary training in the winter if the goal is to race in the spring, or just to be as fast on the bike as you can be.
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You will see tons of gains from your first few years of riding almost despite the method, so you may equate good performance on the road when the weather turns from your spin riding. Of course, nothing is AS good as actually being out on the road, but whatever keeps you consistent (and as long as you continue to be motivated) will contribute to better fitness.
That said, I think the benefits of spin classes diminish as you accrue more miles. I've been riding for two years fairly intensively now and remember going to a spin class around this time last year (after a solid winter of base and virtually no upper end work)... I only broke a sweat from the heat of other riders in the room who were clearly suffering. It was a function of 1) them not knowing how to pace themselves (2) bad spin form/bike setup (3) my higher aerobic endurance sharing a larger workload.
That said, I think the benefits of spin classes diminish as you accrue more miles. I've been riding for two years fairly intensively now and remember going to a spin class around this time last year (after a solid winter of base and virtually no upper end work)... I only broke a sweat from the heat of other riders in the room who were clearly suffering. It was a function of 1) them not knowing how to pace themselves (2) bad spin form/bike setup (3) my higher aerobic endurance sharing a larger workload.
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What you get out of it depends on what you put in it. Just like anything else. You do NOT have to do what the instructor does. My jumps are done to a different count, as I use them to practice for mtb riding (logs, etc). I don't do some of the other stuff, as it does not play into my riding.
When I started spin last fall, one class would wipe me out! Now I can do doubles without too much trouble. The thing that I enjoy about the spin class is there are others around. Breaks up the monotony.
We just got the Keiser spin bikes as well. Much harder to cheat on them, as the info they give really helps keep you honest with yourself.
Again, you get out of the class what you put into it. Kinda like life.
When I started spin last fall, one class would wipe me out! Now I can do doubles without too much trouble. The thing that I enjoy about the spin class is there are others around. Breaks up the monotony.
We just got the Keiser spin bikes as well. Much harder to cheat on them, as the info they give really helps keep you honest with yourself.
Again, you get out of the class what you put into it. Kinda like life.
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I've been to a couple at the Y I belong to... one lady that usually does the Wed morning class races and has a good program with intervals put together. The guy that does the Tue and Thu evening classes doesn't have a clue. He's got people doing push-ups on the bars, tries to base the "intervals" to the beat of some loud ass techno and crazy stuff like that.
It's a good motivator for me every now and then when I'm too bored to ride the trainer alone. All the time, no because nothing they do fits into my usual trainer workouts... if you tried to tell people to do 2X20's (or even 1X20) in spin class, paramedics would need to be on standby.
I bring my bike and rollers- they don't have any problem with that.
It's a good motivator for me every now and then when I'm too bored to ride the trainer alone. All the time, no because nothing they do fits into my usual trainer workouts... if you tried to tell people to do 2X20's (or even 1X20) in spin class, paramedics would need to be on standby.
I bring my bike and rollers- they don't have any problem with that.
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I don't like how easy it is to cheat with a friction-braked bike, either. I'd like to see those magnetic bikes. I should bring mine the next time and borrow one of the trainers they have.
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Spinning/trainer/roller riding is okay for maintaining some from during winter ..... if you can take doing it indoors. Rollers are best for me as you're actually riding and it requires concentration.
Having said that. ..... I don't much care for it. Riding is meant for outdoors. With all the snow this Feb. I just gave up roller riding and went hiking in the snow
It's so much more more enjoyable to be outside in fresh air. When I return to the bike ... I'll be fresh and eager to ride. .... outside!
Having said that. ..... I don't much care for it. Riding is meant for outdoors. With all the snow this Feb. I just gave up roller riding and went hiking in the snow
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I've done spin classes with a local triathlon group (I know, blasphemy) and they're pretty hard. Not as hard a an intense road ride, but still pretty good.
They do some 'isolations' where you go as hard as you can go while keeping yourself over the saddle and not rocking side to side. Stuff like that, working muscles that aren't worked that much in cycling, but still help, are the reason I sort of like spin class.
that said, i'd never go to a spin class when the weather is nice.
They do some 'isolations' where you go as hard as you can go while keeping yourself over the saddle and not rocking side to side. Stuff like that, working muscles that aren't worked that much in cycling, but still help, are the reason I sort of like spin class.
that said, i'd never go to a spin class when the weather is nice.
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I have no idea what the point is. I suspect some aerobics instructor who wanted to do step-aerobics on the bicycle came up with it. It's certainly not a normal, natural cycling activity.
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I do tons of indoor riding in the winter, I use the trainer to do time trial like rides, the spinning bike to hammer out of the saddle, if you don't cheat(which why do it at all) you can get a serious workout. I can force myself to ride very hard.........it works well for me, but you get out what you put it in.
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Just started doing a spin class twice a week and I'm interested to see how (or if) it will translate to my road riding in any way. It's a great workout in any case. The only drawback is the often very bad music we spin to.
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Spin class is great when the weather sucks. Nothing better than actual bike riding. Spin class is a good aerobic exercise but isn't the same as real riding. Spin class is as hard // intense as you want to make it. I spin when I can't ride. I need lots of fans and air or I melt. Spin on but get on the road ASAP.
I tend to agree with this assessment, and am one of those racers that tends to poo poo spin class.
I'll grant that it depends on the instructor, but most of the ones I've done, the instructors appeared to know little about actually riding a bike; the various drills and psotures they wanted had more to do with "toning muscles" than training to ride. And the structure of the intervals was all over the place, designed tomake you sweat, but not really targeted to improving a particular energy system.
All that said, they tend to be hard workouts because of the group motiviational thing, which is good.
But if you're self motivated, you'll see bigger gains working a structured program on the trainer. I would definitely not do spin as my primary training in the winter if the goal is to race in the spring, or just to be as fast on the bike as you can be.
I'll grant that it depends on the instructor, but most of the ones I've done, the instructors appeared to know little about actually riding a bike; the various drills and psotures they wanted had more to do with "toning muscles" than training to ride. And the structure of the intervals was all over the place, designed tomake you sweat, but not really targeted to improving a particular energy system.
All that said, they tend to be hard workouts because of the group motiviational thing, which is good.
But if you're self motivated, you'll see bigger gains working a structured program on the trainer. I would definitely not do spin as my primary training in the winter if the goal is to race in the spring, or just to be as fast on the bike as you can be.
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