CV-6 

I think I have seen routing where it runs all the way along the bar to outlet near the stem ala STI. Has anyone here done this and how does it shift? Photos of your setup either way?

ColonelJLloyd 

Lynn,
In my experience routing the cables along the bar makes for slightly less efficient shifting. It's not a deal breaker for me, though. I let the intended front load (or lack thereof) dictate the bar end routing.

nlerner

Here's one bike with that cable routing:



Friction shifting with SunTour bar cons works fine.

Neal

dbakl

I'm not a big fan of bar ends, but I have a couple bikes with them. I only do it the old fashioned way, turning back in front of the drops:

https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...no_TW_bike.htm

WalksOn2Wheels

I've put in lots of miles on this setup:



Granted, it's a 6 speed, but I don't ever have shifting issues. It works like a champ. The key is to not bend them sharply when they dump out of the taped areas. Let them flow with a little slack and give them a slight bend back around to the downtube bosses and you shouldn't have any major issues.

AngelGendy

I hadn't put much thought into it just kinda wrapped them how it felt natural..... This is my first bike with them so I didn't know if there was a "standard"

Colonel I love the twine finishing wraps! I'm officially stealing that idea!

ColonelJLloyd 

It's certainly not my idea. Twine away!

Cool looking tandem. You should start a thread for it. I'd like to see more.

WalksOn2Wheels

Angel... Where does that 5th cable go?!

AngelGendy

Here's the thread so far.....

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...what-did-I-buy

The right is both the front and rear cantilevers, and the left is for the drum rear.

dbakl

Actually, that looks better than what I know as "standard".

CV-6 

Dual rear brakes. Did not know Modolo made that type lever also. Or is it a rebranded MAFAC?

CV-6 

Thanks for the responses. Below is what prompted the inquiry. I plan to update it a bit and bar ends is one of the planned updates.

So anyone got some barcons they want to part with?

PDXaero

In all of its french goodness it deserves simplex bar-ends. I might part with mine as my french randonneur project has been canned for an easy japanese tourer.

CV-6 

I might consider that. One option is to use my remaining gold Super LJ derailleurs on it. It has Suntour Cyclone levers and FD, Shimano 600 RD at the moment. The other option is a Cyclone GT at the rear. Not so sure the Simplex will handle a 28T 7spd config. We shall see. It needs new wheels first and foremost.

degan 

My first C&V bike had bar ends and I routed them under the bar tape as soon as possible. That, when combined with aero levers, looks so cool in my opinion. Much better than having cables poke out at some random time along the bar tape. I haven't noticed any difference in shifting.

khatfull

Mine:

matt0ne

What's the appeal of the bar-end shifters? I'm almost always riding on the hoods, so I'm unsure how changing gears feels when they're at the bar-ends.

divineAndbright

I'll take bar cons over dt shifters any day of the week, but I almost strickly run STI shifting these days.

For what its worth I tried routing either way. I prefer going up exiting near the stem, but you use less housing/cable doing it the other way.. and with todays stiffer shift cable housing you sorta need for the precise indexing its going to go a lot smoother that way.

stien

strictly?

jan nikolajsen 

I know it's pretty lame, but forever I've neither wrapped or twined or taped the cables. Just a ferrule and a big sweep straight down to the cable stops. Never had a problem, except a snide remark here and there

Here's a couple of bikes done this way:

DRietz

Hey Jan - what ever happened to them thar Gatorskins? Is the snow melted enough to go for a nice slickrock mountain bike ride yet?

I routed my brother's 7speed HG set up with bar ends along the bar as one would with a modern Ergo or STI lever. It shifts really smoothly, actually. I was somewhat surprised.

RobbieTunes

I ran mine like khatful's, on a Ti fast mover.
I used strictly STI cable housing and teflon cables, never had a problem.

To answer Matt0ne, if you ride the drops, the shifters are right there, lighter than STI's, and you can shift 2-3 cogs at a time.
They have a learning curve, but if you race in the drops and are good at moving your bar end shifters with the heel of your hand and last two fingers, you can very quickly flick through the gears. You pretty much end up never looking at your shifters or your brake levers, which gives you a little more attention on the road and other riders, especially in criteriums. A well-practiced bar end shifter can pass another rider in the time it takes the other rider to shift an STI down or up 2 cogs.

I think bar ends for tourers make room for front bags, and many tourers move their hands around a lot, but ride the drops quite a bit, as their bars tend to be higher than race bars. Plus, very high mileage = more shifts, and STI's and ergos will wear out. Ergos can be rebuilt, but most STI's are disposables. I would imagine bar ends are pretty solid and last a long time.

I was significantly faster on the shift when I ran DA bar ends on my Ti bike. On a scale of 0-10 (for me only), the time to shift as needed on a DT setup was probably a 6, the time to shift as needed on STI's was probably a 7.5, and that same time frame on bar ends was a 9, with 10 being "think=shift."

I have no doubt others have different experiences and prefererences, and I am to where I prefer STI/Ergos. When those "return to center" bar ends become more universal, and available used, I may well change to those. My legs tell me what gear I'm in, so the "return to center" shifters would be welcome. That kind of rules out the 2-3 cogs at a time, from what I'm told, though. Terrain here doesn't change as gradually as a 1-cog shift, so there's a lot of double-clicking on STI's. Ergos allow you to go a couple at a time, generally.

The goal, for me, is to look at the road and other riders, other hazards as well. The less time I even think about shifting, braking, or what the bike is doing, the better. If the bike is out of the way, it's dialed in and working the way I want it to, and I can just pedal and wear the thing like moving attire. Bar ends put me closer to that than STI's.

Barrettscv 

AngelGendy

The modolo logo is silk screened on, but I'm sure what mafac means....

Nice tandem CV!

Jan, I always remind people with snide comments they don't have to ride it!

repechage

Did you get this yet? I will be really interested to see what the real measurements of it are... As to the bar end shifters, I would go with what will provide a simple sweep and shorter cable. Index acceptable housing will help too. I never liked my bar end shifters for performance way back, but I did like them on the bars, maybe with better housing I would like them again, that and trimming the bars about 18mm.