Colnago c59 disc
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Colnago C59 Disc
The future of road bikes with hydraulic disc brakes has officially begun my friends.
https://www.colnago.com/c59-disc/
https://www.colnago.com/c59-disc/
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^^ Only, and MAYBE, mechanical disks... Hydros would need completely new shifters.
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I'm sorry but that looks stupid. I will never have a road bike with disc brakes...
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silly me, I thought it was about function. if you ride in the rain or do some epic descents on full carbon wheels, discs will be huge.
I would buy a CX bike with discs right now. For a road bike-- I actually don't have any epic descents, or do much riding in the rain, or own full carbon wheels. And I think they look fine at any rate.
In terms of pro racing, I bet the UCI will allow them soon. They're heavier and they are a safety feature. Road discs will make the aluminum brake track on carbon rims disappear within 5-10 years.
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Glad they're on board with the others already offering it. I think it's a good move.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ikes-are-here?
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...rent-approach?
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ikes-are-here?
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...rent-approach?
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interesting.
the tech has a long way to go before it's commonplace. literally every wheel, fork, group, and frame out there is currently incompatible with the system. but if it's really better, it'll make it.
hell, cars used to have all drum brakes. i'm sure there were detractors when the first disc brakes were announced.
the tech has a long way to go before it's commonplace. literally every wheel, fork, group, and frame out there is currently incompatible with the system. but if it's really better, it'll make it.
hell, cars used to have all drum brakes. i'm sure there were detractors when the first disc brakes were announced.
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looks stupid? O.o
silly me, I thought it was about function. if you ride in the rain or do some epic descents on full carbon wheels, discs will be huge.
I would buy a CX bike with discs right now. For a road bike-- I actually don't have any epic descents, or do much riding in the rain, or own full carbon wheels. And I think they look fine at any rate.
In terms of pro racing, I bet the UCI will allow them soon. They're heavier and they are a safety feature. Road discs will make the aluminum brake track on carbon rims disappear within 5-10 years.
silly me, I thought it was about function. if you ride in the rain or do some epic descents on full carbon wheels, discs will be huge.
I would buy a CX bike with discs right now. For a road bike-- I actually don't have any epic descents, or do much riding in the rain, or own full carbon wheels. And I think they look fine at any rate.
In terms of pro racing, I bet the UCI will allow them soon. They're heavier and they are a safety feature. Road discs will make the aluminum brake track on carbon rims disappear within 5-10 years.
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Nifty. I wonder if they did anything with the rear hub spacing to help with the lateral wheel stiffness.
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me too. about time road bikes got decent brakes.
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my only reservation on brakes like this is that i have never felt like i needed more stopping POWER - even new tires seem to lose traction above 25mph with rim brakes.
i'm sure these are better w/r/t heat and brake fade on descents (particularly with clincher wheels, i guess), but that's another issue.
i'm sure these are better w/r/t heat and brake fade on descents (particularly with clincher wheels, i guess), but that's another issue.
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Brakes are over-rated.
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Looks cool. I'd ride it if you gave it to me/paid me to race it. I'm too cheap to do so otherwise, but can dream.
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I wonder how heavy this bike is. I wonder how heavy they had to make the fork to deal with the stresses of disk brakes. I do dig the paint job of that frame, looks pretty cool.
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for a colnago it has a rather tame paint scheme.
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Those rotors definitely look undersized for road use, with little material to dissapate heat.
Discs that are good enough for CX, may well be a problem on a road bike. See the earlier thread.
Also hydraulic brakes are problematic on a road bike, with the fluid boiling, and popping lines. This has been a recurrent problem on tandem disc brakes. Admittedly, tandems put a higher load on brakes. But I wouldn't be too confident in first generation hydraulic systems that are built to be light, and may well be under built.
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Also hydraulic brakes are problematic on a road bike, with the fluid boiling, and popping lines. This has been a recurrent problem on tandem disc brakes. Admittedly, tandems put a higher load on brakes. But I wouldn't be too confident in first generation hydraulic systems that are built to be light, and may well be under built.
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I agree about hydraulic - I think I would prefer cables on a road bike. If the rotors are not too undersized for weight saving, discs should be more dependable that rim brakes. The only issue I see with them on a road bike is extra weight from beefing up the frame and fork, and potential ride comfort from the stiffer fork. I would take the slight weight penalty for my riding. I rode a Volagi a few weeks back and was very impressed.