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Which fixed gear bike? Wyatt Bikes or ToTo Tomcat Bikes?

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Old 03-13-12, 10:33 PM
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Which fixed gear bike? Wyatt Bikes or ToTo Tomcat Bikes?

I am looking to get a fixed gear bike. Both of these bikes are the same price ($350) and are both Chromoly frames. Which is the better bike? Also, just to throw it out there, drop bars vs risers? Let me know what you think.

Wyatt bikes:
https://www.wyattbikes.com/bikes/ghost

ToTo Tomcat Bikes:
https://totocycling.com/tomcat-uno.html
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those are both super meh...

kilo tt.
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Why are they "super meh"?

Why is the Kilo TT better?
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The wyatt appears to have cast dropouts. They might just be machined stamped dropouts, though.
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Originally Posted by Ultraspontane
The wyatt appears to have cast dropouts. They might just be machined stamped dropouts, though.
Can you clarify? I'm new to the fixed gear scene.
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Casted dropouts are typically of a higher quality than a stamped, or laser cut dropout.
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Originally Posted by Ultraspontane
Casted dropouts are typically of a higher quality than a stamped, or laser cut dropout.
So would you reccomend the Wyatt bike?
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Old 03-13-12, 11:26 PM
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SE Premium Brew.
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Old 03-13-12, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by akulpinski
So would you reccomend the Wyatt bike?
I cannot say. I've never seen or heard of one. Of the two options, it appears to be the better choice, though.

If you are okay with the aesthetics, this might be a good choice for you:

https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...0052_540608_-1
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What are some other good bicycle brands that share the same urban styling and price as the bikes above?
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Old 03-13-12, 11:39 PM
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There is the Trek Earl. I have one and it is a good bike.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...ty/earl/earl/#

You can find get them for $367 here: https://villagecycle.com/product/11trek-earl-73874-1.htm

Here is mine with SKS fenders for bad weather days:






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It's just not really my style...
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There is also this guy (in limited sizes): https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_202339
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Why do you use riser bars versus road drops?
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Its all personal preference. You will have to try different setups on your own to find out what works best for you. There are pros and cons to each.
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Originally Posted by akulpinski
Why are they "super meh"?

Why is the Kilo TT better?
Both options you posted come with no-name/never-heard-of low quality parts.

Granted, the Kilo TT also comes with some low quality parts, but the frame and more notably the fork is nicer. The SE premium brew is actually even nicer and better quality, but it comes with a less than appealing paint job (IMO).
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Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
Both options you posted come with no-name/never-heard-of low quality parts.

Granted, the Kilo TT also comes with some low quality parts, but the frame and more notably the fork is nicer. The SE premium brew is actually even nicer and better quality, but it comes with a less than appealing paint job (IMO).
So you don't like dragons I take it?
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The premium brew is one hell of a deal for a starter ssfg - but to be able to ride it in public it would need a new saddle and a complete repaint.

Edit: or I just had a thought, go nuts with white electrical tape to cover up the dopey graphics and then get a white saddle. Boom, instant nice bike.

dbl edit: Like this specimen shows us, the bike (sans rag) is amazing in all white:

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Get SE Premium Brew. Go down to the local graffiti artists with the frame stripped of all parts. Tell them to give it hell. Reinstall parts with new Charge saddle. Profit.
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Originally Posted by Ultraspontane
There is also this guy (in limited sizes): https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_202339
with your budget i would get this. you are getting a great deal for your money frame/component wise....i think the reason its marked so low is the graphics turned allot of people off.

but you could buy that, and take a can of paint stripper to it. could look very cool with a naked steel frame and silver components with blue here and there. the whited out example of it posted above looks really nice IMO...

granted, theres only smaller sizes in stock.

well, here it is available in a 56...
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/se/premium_brew.htm

the saddle is kind of barfy but thats easily replaceable.

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Old 03-15-12, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Santaria
Go down to the local graffiti artists with the frame stripped of all parts.
at the local graffiti artist collective? or the hardware store? where dey @ I don't see em
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