we both broke the law - but his was worse, lol
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The OP was half way into the intersection before the light turned red, not sure about traffic laws in the OP's locale, but locally, that would be considered legal. The car creeping out into the intersection on a red light was definitely doing it illegally.
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So both the white SUV that ran a red light and the pedestrian standing in the middle of the bike lane both flat out broke the law.
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If you have time to safely stop on the yellow without entering the intersection, then you should do so. But entering the intersection on a yellow is not illegal.
So both the white SUV that ran a red light and the pedestrian standing in the middle of the bike lane both flat out broke the law.
So both the white SUV that ran a red light and the pedestrian standing in the middle of the bike lane both flat out broke the law.
Hmm, well I guess I didnt break the law after all.
And the person in the bike lane was actually a skateboarder. Dont know about the legality of that.
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No you didn't break the law; however, you clearly don't understanding the rules of the road, so you should probably spend some time studying them before you do much more riding on streets...
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Or start Internet campaigns about how wrong all the LEO's are about everything.
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When lights are timed for motor vehicle speeds, I have done the same as the OP on several occasions. Generally, there is a timed delay of 1 to 3 seconds between red lights to allow for such a situation. The motorist in the OP's video, who drove through the red light, clearly needs to study the rules of the road before they do much more driving.
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When lights are timed for motor vehicle speeds, I have done the same as the OP on several occasions. Generally, there is a timed delay of 1 to 3 seconds between red lights to allow for such a situation. The motorist in the OP's video, who drove through the red light, clearly needs to study the rules of the road before they do much more driving.
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....and we here at BF need to be a bit more supportive in helping other cyclists in understanding the rules of the road, rather than rubbing their noses in it.
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How is someone to know they need to read up on the traffic laws if someone doesn't point that out? Which is all I did (and politely while I was at it). That is certainly better than the typical blaming of motorists (which is what your post did, well that and the signal designers...). Such blame is pointless, when the motorist in question is not participating in the discussion...
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How is someone to know they need to read up on the traffic laws if someone doesn't point that out? Which is all I did (and politely while I was at it). That is certainly better than the typical blaming of motorists (which is what your post did, well that and the signal designers...).
Not every road users completely understands all the rules of the road, unlike you, I informed the OP that his actions may not be illegal, and that the motorist's actions were, that was all. I did not tell the OP to limit riding his bike until he better understands the rules of the road, when there are other road users who, in the OP's video, blatantly ignore them.
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If it was illegal to enter an intersection on a yellow, there'd be no distinction between yellow and red and no point in having yellow. A long time ago (within my memory) there were traffic lights that were only green or red and it was quickly realized the difficulty that posed for approaching traffic when the light turned red. To solve this without adding another color, when the red light would come on the green light would stay illuminated for some seconds. The period with both lights illuminated served the same function as yellow does today, which is to signify an impending red so that you should either proceed or stop depending on speed/distance from the intersection.
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I havent had a moving infraction in over 17 years of driving. Thanks for the advice though.
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To solve this without adding another color, when the red light would come on the green light would stay illuminated for some seconds. The period with both lights illuminated served the same function as yellow does today, which is to signify an impending red so that you should either proceed or stop depending on speed/distance from the intersection.
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I ride that section in Redondo almost every day. howdy neighbor.
I had to sell my truck cause of tickets and the cost of insurance.
You can go through a yellow if the front wheels are past the LIMIT line.
I had to sell my truck cause of tickets and the cost of insurance.
You can go through a yellow if the front wheels are past the LIMIT line.
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'Rules of the Road' are the traffic laws, of which the OP did not violate. Perhaps 'Defensive Driving' guidelines might be more helpful to the OP.
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However, when I was 14 yrs old I almost got a ticket at that exact intersectoin because I ran the red light on my rollerblades. The police officer who stopped me decided to let me go with a warning.
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No. What my post was saying was that the OP was clearly unaware of whether he broke the law or not, hence the need to actually learn the rules of the road... (which are yes, the TRAFFIC LAWS)...
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In CA (CO as well), traffic violations are criminal acts. If a CA cop issues a ticket and they are not able to reasonably identify the ticketed, as would be difficult for a 14 year old who does not have a drivers license, state ID card or criminal record, CA police procedural law requires the cop to take the ticketed individual to the nearest magistrate so that bail may be established and collected. The law is designed to prevent individuals from giving false names and get away without paying the ticket. CA hates missing out on cash income. Your Cop probably did not want to go through all the legal procedural BS for ticketing a kid.
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So give the OP a break on a very minor issue.
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