Going to have to find a new job - my first while car-free
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Going to have to find a new job - my first while car-free
I've been car-free for two years (exactly two years today). I've been at my job for five years. Things are going downhill, and I'll be out of a job before the end of the month.
My current commute is 3.5 miles each way. I'd feel comfortable with a 10-mile commute, but don't want to go much beyond that.
I hate looking for work.
My current commute is 3.5 miles each way. I'd feel comfortable with a 10-mile commute, but don't want to go much beyond that.
I hate looking for work.
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Pedaled too far.
Good luck on your search. What are you looking for?
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Good luck man.As lame as it sounds, you might want to rent a car when going to interviews/ turning in applications. A few years back I cycled around town asking for/filling out applications. By the end of the day I was sweaty and probably smelled pretty gross and the last few places I went to looked at me like I was from another planet(my hair was windblown, I was sunburned, and my skin had that "just worked out" look to it). I'm sure it will all work out for you man, let us know how it goes! Maybe it's for the better and you'll find another job even closer to home, or right near a grocery store.
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Pedaled too far.
Now days, most professional openings prefer that you apply digitally. So that's not a problem. Admittedly, the last application I turned in, on Friday, I turned in a paper copy to get around their on-line forms that demanded to know what my expected compensation was. I took the bus in, did a meeting in the same building and then dropped off the application.
In general, for interviews, I take the bus in to stay fresh, even if I'm going to pedal home. On a far-away interview, I will rent a car. But I've gotten jobs when I rode my bike in as well. As long as you can make a professional presentation, it's good.
In general, for interviews, I take the bus in to stay fresh, even if I'm going to pedal home. On a far-away interview, I will rent a car. But I've gotten jobs when I rode my bike in as well. As long as you can make a professional presentation, it's good.
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If/when the "do you have reliable transportation" question arises, I'd leave it as short-n-sweet as you can. Stick with a "Yes; transportation will not be a problem" type of answer. It's probably no big deal, but you might rather be safe than sorry.
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Pedaled too far.
And if there really is any question, he now has a solid track record at his current employer's. That question doesn't seem to come up as much in more professional roles unless a car is actually required for the job.
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A few things to consider:
-we have not been given any indication as to what the OP does for a living; I, for one, would prefer not to make assumptions.
-I agree that it's less likely to come up in a pro interview, but it still may. It came up in my last interview, but that may be b/c it was an internal position at an organization that i've worked/ cyclocommuted for 8 years. It was a group interview, and another interviewer quickly mentioned that it hadn't been a problem before.... But,I've found that the 2nd most common excuse I get when someone calls out from a shift is transportation issues. To my mind, that's a "late"excuse, rather than an "absent excuse"; during an interview, an employer isn't going to want either.
-Of course you're right that the OP has a 2 year track record of reliably getting to work by bike, but we can't expect the potential employer to be as logical as you are, ArtKansas. Many ppl make some deep-rooted assumptions about cycling.
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I work in IT. Yes, professional jobs usually are better about bike commuting. Sometimes we even get to park in our offices.
I don't generally share that I don't own a car during an interview. If the distance for the interview is enough to get too sweaty, I'll consider bus, cab, or a ride from somebody.
My fiance had a car until it was stolen, but it'll get replaced fairly soon.
What am I looking for? Unless I can find a good-paying job in another field, I'll stick with IT. Since I don't have a college degree, my options are limited. I'd actually like a slightly longer commute than I have now.
I don't generally share that I don't own a car during an interview. If the distance for the interview is enough to get too sweaty, I'll consider bus, cab, or a ride from somebody.
My fiance had a car until it was stolen, but it'll get replaced fairly soon.
What am I looking for? Unless I can find a good-paying job in another field, I'll stick with IT. Since I don't have a college degree, my options are limited. I'd actually like a slightly longer commute than I have now.
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I've gotten 3-4 jobs while car-light now. For 1 I even biked to the interview and got changed in the bathroom into a suit. But I'd highly recommend the rental/borrow car route for the interview.
Additionally, assuming you're not at the take any job offered stage, when it comes time for you to ask questions, don't forget to ask if they have a shower on site, and if they have a bike rack or are OK with you wheeling your bike inside. Besides the convenience of the shower, how they respond to your question will also give you a hint on how bike friendly they're going to be.
As for commute length, I've done 8, 5, 16, 10, 11 mile commutes for my different bike jobs. I found the 16 one to be to much, but the rest are all easy enough. But if you don't bike much beyond your current commute, going from 3 miles to 10 will take a bunch out of you the first few weeks until your core/legs tone up.
Additionally, assuming you're not at the take any job offered stage, when it comes time for you to ask questions, don't forget to ask if they have a shower on site, and if they have a bike rack or are OK with you wheeling your bike inside. Besides the convenience of the shower, how they respond to your question will also give you a hint on how bike friendly they're going to be.
As for commute length, I've done 8, 5, 16, 10, 11 mile commutes for my different bike jobs. I found the 16 one to be to much, but the rest are all easy enough. But if you don't bike much beyond your current commute, going from 3 miles to 10 will take a bunch out of you the first few weeks until your core/legs tone up.
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I've gotten 3-4 jobs while car-light now. For 1 I even biked to the interview and got changed in the bathroom into a suit. But I'd highly recommend the rental/borrow car route for the interview.
Additionally, assuming you're not at the take any job offered stage, when it comes time for you to ask questions, don't forget to ask if they have a shower on site, and if they have a bike rack or are OK with you wheeling your bike inside. Besides the convenience of the shower, how they respond to your question will also give you a hint on how bike friendly they're going to be.
As for commute length, I've done 8, 5, 16, 10, 11 mile commutes for my different bike jobs. I found the 16 one to be to much, but the rest are all easy enough. But if you don't bike much beyond your current commute, going from 3 miles to 10 will take a bunch out of you the first few weeks until your core/legs tone up.
Additionally, assuming you're not at the take any job offered stage, when it comes time for you to ask questions, don't forget to ask if they have a shower on site, and if they have a bike rack or are OK with you wheeling your bike inside. Besides the convenience of the shower, how they respond to your question will also give you a hint on how bike friendly they're going to be.
As for commute length, I've done 8, 5, 16, 10, 11 mile commutes for my different bike jobs. I found the 16 one to be to much, but the rest are all easy enough. But if you don't bike much beyond your current commute, going from 3 miles to 10 will take a bunch out of you the first few weeks until your core/legs tone up.
Most places here in Louisville are not friendly about bikes if you ask. I'll wait until I start and "get the lay of the land" first. If I have to lock up outside, I'll ride a beater. The two places I've worked since I started riding were okay with me bringing the bike in -- but I never asked.
I've never used a shower at work (okay, once, but I learned they kept the water heater off unless the room was scheduled to be used... brrr!) I shower in the morning and wipe off at work. I currently keep a towel in my office. On my current short commute, I sometimes just ride in my business casual work clothes, and try not to ride hard enough to sweat. That may not be an option at ten miles.
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I'm a musician in Las Vegas, which is a very unpredictable way to live. I've been looking for some extra work this week and even had some good email correspondence with one company. They would send me to box stores to assemble bicycles with my own tools. I could figure out a way to carry tools and a repair stand, but the possibility of needing to visit multiple stores in one day would likely cancel me out as a bicycle commuter.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
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Pedaled too far.
How many stores are we talking about? 2, 3, 5, 17? How far apart are they and how much flexibility do you have in setting your schedule? Those could be the deciding factors. Adding a car into the picture could rob you of a lot of the income, especially if this is a seasonal job.
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I'm a musician in Las Vegas, which is a very unpredictable way to live. I've been looking for some extra work this week and even had some good email correspondence with one company. They would send me to box stores to assemble bicycles with my own tools. I could figure out a way to carry tools and a repair stand, but the possibility of needing to visit multiple stores in one day would likely cancel me out as a bicycle commuter.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
bicycle. If you've got credit the monthly payment could be only $50. In the long run it would be cheaper too. I speak from experience.
A scooter with a flat floor could hold a folded bicycle stand. The tools could fit into a trunk or the under seat storage area. Don't pass up a good job like that if you can find a way to make it work.
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I'm a musician in Las Vegas, which is a very unpredictable way to live. I've been looking for some extra work this week and even had some good email correspondence with one company. They would send me to box stores to assemble bicycles with my own tools. I could figure out a way to carry tools and a repair stand, but the possibility of needing to visit multiple stores in one day would likely cancel me out as a bicycle commuter.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
I stared at the wall for a long time wondering if I was stubborn and/or stupid to not pursue a job just because I would need a car.
A friend of mine did an early season of assembling new bikes for an LBS (let's forget about the quality quotient for this discussion), and he had to line them up and work in a "production line" way to get the job done. There was no need nor room for a workstand.
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The list of tools "required" (obviously overstated) in an email included a cordless drill and air compressor. C-List is public so I'll just post the link here -
https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/lab/4191033495.html
I don't want to hijack this thread with my own job search; I worked at a bike shop in high school in the early '80s and the skills I learned have saved me tons of money and enabled life-long transportation/recreation independence. As the weekend approached, I have not responded to the person I'd heard from as far as whether a bike commuter could do this job.
https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/lab/4191033495.html
I don't want to hijack this thread with my own job search; I worked at a bike shop in high school in the early '80s and the skills I learned have saved me tons of money and enabled life-long transportation/recreation independence. As the weekend approached, I have not responded to the person I'd heard from as far as whether a bike commuter could do this job.
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Back to the OP's post.... If I was an IT person looking for a new work gig in L'ville, what about UPS? Their worldwide shipping distribution hub is at the airport, and they are probably one of the biggest employers in the area. Their business seems to keep growing with all of the online shopping, and it is a technology centered business these days.
The other place that I would look for an IT job is at a major medical center. Hospitals and medical centers are become more technology oriented and their business continues to grow regardless of what happens with new health care laws. Baby boomers (including me) are not getting any younger. If you can get into IT at a University medical center, even better. I know several people who work in IT here in Southern Cal at UC Irvine medical center and they like their jobs and get better benefits and more paid vacation time than they got when working in a traditional technology company environment.
The other place that I would look for an IT job is at a major medical center. Hospitals and medical centers are become more technology oriented and their business continues to grow regardless of what happens with new health care laws. Baby boomers (including me) are not getting any younger. If you can get into IT at a University medical center, even better. I know several people who work in IT here in Southern Cal at UC Irvine medical center and they like their jobs and get better benefits and more paid vacation time than they got when working in a traditional technology company environment.
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Back to the OP's post.... If I was an IT person looking for a new work gig in L'ville, what about UPS? Their worldwide shipping distribution hub is at the airport, and they are probably one of the biggest employers in the area. Their business seems to keep growing with all of the online shopping, and it is a technology centered business these days.
The other place that I would look for an IT job is at a major medical center. Hospitals and medical centers are become more technology oriented and their business continues to grow regardless of what happens with new health care laws. Baby boomers (including me) are not getting any younger. If you can get into IT at a University medical center, even better. I know several people who work in IT here in Southern Cal at UC Irvine medical center and they like their jobs and get better benefits and more paid vacation time than they got when working in a traditional technology company environment.
The other place that I would look for an IT job is at a major medical center. Hospitals and medical centers are become more technology oriented and their business continues to grow regardless of what happens with new health care laws. Baby boomers (including me) are not getting any younger. If you can get into IT at a University medical center, even better. I know several people who work in IT here in Southern Cal at UC Irvine medical center and they like their jobs and get better benefits and more paid vacation time than they got when working in a traditional technology company environment.
I honestly don't want to work at UPS. The offices they work out of are not in bike-friendly areas, and a friend of mine works there, and can't ever be seen in the building in cycling clothes - not even to walk to the restroom to change. This limits her ability to ride her bike there.
I am trying to get into a small web development shop that is walking distance from my house. I wouldn't even bother with the bike. It would be a pay cut, but it sounds like fun.
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I honestly don't want to work at UPS. The offices they work out of are not in bike-friendly areas, and a friend of mine works there, and can't ever be seen in the building in cycling clothes - not even to walk to the restroom to change. This limits her ability to ride her bike there.
I am trying to get into a small web development shop that is walking distance from my house. I wouldn't even bother with the bike. It would be a pay cut, but it sounds like fun.
I am trying to get into a small web development shop that is walking distance from my house. I wouldn't even bother with the bike. It would be a pay cut, but it sounds like fun.
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I've applied at two large medical centers. We'll see how that goes.
I honestly don't want to work at UPS. The offices they work out of are not in bike-friendly areas, and a friend of mine works there, and can't ever be seen in the building in cycling clothes - not even to walk to the restroom to change. This limits her ability to ride her bike there.
I am trying to get into a small web development shop that is walking distance from my house. I wouldn't even bother with the bike. It would be a pay cut, but it sounds like fun.
I honestly don't want to work at UPS. The offices they work out of are not in bike-friendly areas, and a friend of mine works there, and can't ever be seen in the building in cycling clothes - not even to walk to the restroom to change. This limits her ability to ride her bike there.
I am trying to get into a small web development shop that is walking distance from my house. I wouldn't even bother with the bike. It would be a pay cut, but it sounds like fun.
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It's just the one campus on the east end of town where the IT people work.
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I don't know, but yesterday I took part in a roundtable discussion about package delivery by bicycle in our city. One of the other participants was a representative of a company that has been touting how they are beginning to use pedal-assisted tricycles. It sounded good at first, but after being questioned about it, he had to admit that it was a very timid effort indeed. It turns out they've only got one of these trikes in town, and there's no way you can be sure your package will be delivered with it. The whole thing smelled of greenwashing. Fortunately, there are several other outfits in town that rely 100% on pedal power.
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And maybe it isn't even UPS's fault. It might be the company they lease their building from, or a property management company.
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It may not be company policy, but a supervisor being a problem.
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Pedaled too far.
I have no idea. This is secondhand information. The woman isn't car-free, but rides a recumbent bike quite a bit for errands. She wanted to ride to work, but the distance would require bike-specific clothing, and that doesn't appear to be an option.
It may not be company policy, but a supervisor being a problem.
It may not be company policy, but a supervisor being a problem.
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