This is what I live for! This is why I climb! This is LIFE!
01-15-14, 07:49 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
This is what I live for! This is why I climb! This is LIFE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3UNU_n50U Enough said!
01-15-14, 07:55 PM
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 178
Bikes: C'dale CAAD 10
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I saw the first couple of minutes and I noticed you're always braking while turning, instead of braking before the turn, and then coasting through the turn. Braking during the corner negatively affects your control.
01-15-14, 08:03 PM
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
This is not me, This is a fellow very skilled rider. Wait till he gets into the trees and you can really see his speed. He is passing cars and fellow riders like they are standing still.
I am fighting not to take my bike out now. nightime is not a good time to do a decent.
I am fighting not to take my bike out now. nightime is not a good time to do a decent.
Last edited by Hbrown; 01-15-14 at 08:07 PM.
01-15-14, 08:11 PM
#4
Senior Member
01-15-14, 08:34 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,968
Bikes: '09 Trek 2.1 * '75 Sekine * 2010 Raleigh Talus 8.0 * '90 Giant Mtb * Raleigh M20 * Fuji Nevada mtb
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Who cares? You kids gotta quite being a killjoy. HBrown is excited about the ride. Enjoy it with him.
__________________
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
01-15-14, 09:39 PM
#7
Serious Cyclist
I'm going along with Grolby on this. I think the guy in that video knows a great deal more about proper braking and cornering technique than anyone here. Although what he did is very, very risky, he did it very well. Must have a lot of faith in your tires/wheels/brakes to maintain that kind of speed and hurl it through corners like that. Thanks for posting this.
01-15-14, 09:58 PM
#8
In the wind
Nice, nothing wrong with his braking to my eye, although he used all of the road on a couple of curves which is a bit unnerving.
There was a lot more traffic the day I rode that bit, but you pretty much have to pass the cars or you'll be on the brakes the whole way down.
There was a lot more traffic the day I rode that bit, but you pretty much have to pass the cars or you'll be on the brakes the whole way down.
01-15-14, 10:12 PM
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 2,669
Bikes: 2023 Canyon Aeoroad CF SL, 2015 Trek Emonda SLR, 2002 Litespeed Classic, 2005 Bianchi Pista, Some BikesDirect MTB I never ride.
Liked 139 Times
in
90 Posts
I knew the name looked familiar. This guy is a nut! I watched another one of his videos a while ago. This one is way scarier. Road is complete garbage and he's really risking killing himself and one of those peds in the vid. I'm impressed with his skills, and he does have brass balls, but lots of risk..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJcYWXkt9UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJcYWXkt9UE
01-15-14, 10:13 PM
#12
Senior Member
I'm going along with Grolby on this. I think the guy in that video knows a great deal more about proper braking and cornering technique than anyone here. Although what he did is very, very risky, he did it very well. Must have a lot of faith in your tires/wheels/brakes to maintain that kind of speed and hurl it through corners like that. Thanks for posting this.
To expand on my snippiness earlier: I don't know where this idea got started that the right technique is to do all braking prior to turning in and use no brakes at all during the turn, but it's just baloney. Maintaining some amount of braking through turn in and trailing it off up through the apex lets you carry FAR more speed through the turn, if you want to. It lets you do this because, by definition, you have more control over your speed, not less. Which means it's a good idea no matter how fast you're trying to descend. Trying to do all your braking before turning means you have to over brake for the turn, and if you actually didn't brake enough, rather than being able to scrub just a bit more speed and maybe swing just a bit wider, you're suddenly having to grab a big handful of brake and hope you don't go off the road.
01-16-14, 03:40 AM
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 178
Bikes: C'dale CAAD 10
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yeah, I more or less agree with this. And I love descending, so it's nice to see some cool video of someone doing it well.
To expand on my snippiness earlier: I don't know where this idea got started that the right technique is to do all braking prior to turning in and use no brakes at all during the turn, but it's just baloney. Maintaining some amount of braking through turn in and trailing it off up through the apex lets you carry FAR more speed through the turn, if you want to. It lets you do this because, by definition, you have more control over your speed, not less. Which means it's a good idea no matter how fast you're trying to descend. Trying to do all your braking before turning means you have to over brake for the turn, and if you actually didn't brake enough, rather than being able to scrub just a bit more speed and maybe swing just a bit wider, you're suddenly having to grab a big handful of brake and hope you don't go off the road.
To expand on my snippiness earlier: I don't know where this idea got started that the right technique is to do all braking prior to turning in and use no brakes at all during the turn, but it's just baloney. Maintaining some amount of braking through turn in and trailing it off up through the apex lets you carry FAR more speed through the turn, if you want to. It lets you do this because, by definition, you have more control over your speed, not less. Which means it's a good idea no matter how fast you're trying to descend. Trying to do all your braking before turning means you have to over brake for the turn, and if you actually didn't brake enough, rather than being able to scrub just a bit more speed and maybe swing just a bit wider, you're suddenly having to grab a big handful of brake and hope you don't go off the road.
01-16-14, 05:47 AM
#16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3UNU_n50U Enough said!
01-16-14, 11:51 AM
#20
I can't tell positively from the vid when he's braking, as it's possible to pull the levers without braking and it's pretty common to hold the levers at a point just before engagement. Of course available traction is split between braking and corning forces, so maximum braking is only achievable upright and max corning speed (max centripetal acceleration) only without braking.
01-16-14, 11:55 AM
#21
how long did it take him to climb all that? An elevation profile would be great
nermind\
https://www.cyclingthealps.com/profile/mont-ventoux.html
nermind\
https://www.cyclingthealps.com/profile/mont-ventoux.html
Last edited by spectastic; 01-16-14 at 12:07 PM.
01-16-14, 12:17 PM
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,078
Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
From his shadow it looked like he was swinging his inside knee out in the turns. Must be a habit from riding a motorcycle down similar roads. Bombing down hills like that feels too risky to me.
It's also interesting he has disc brakes. I've heard road bike discs don't have enough mass to handle the heat generated on long descents like that.
It's also interesting he has disc brakes. I've heard road bike discs don't have enough mass to handle the heat generated on long descents like that.
01-16-14, 12:34 PM
#23
Professional Fuss-Budget
You could always hitch a ride to the top, y'know. 
My understanding is: If you have the right setup and technique -- use large enough rotors, calipers with sufficient heat dissipation, use the correct combination of pads and rotors, and don't drag on the brakes -- you should be fine. Plus, the tires are less likely to blow off the rim.
If you do not have the right setup, you'll have issues with heat dissipation. The pads can glaze and/or hydraulic fluid can boil, resulting in brake fade.
If you do not have the right setup, you'll have issues with heat dissipation. The pads can glaze and/or hydraulic fluid can boil, resulting in brake fade.
01-16-14, 02:12 PM
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Go Ducks!
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3UNU_n50U Enough said!
Dude is nuts. Skilled, but nuts.
01-16-14, 02:44 PM
#25
just another gosling
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 19,633
Bikes: CoMo Speedster 2003, Trek 5200, CAAD 9, Fred 2004
Liked 1,998 Times
in
1,419 Posts
He's at terminal velocity most of the way, doesn't brake all that much. Discs probably nice for modulation. Knee out in the turns at those speeds fine, aerodynamic braking, takes load off the tires, adds a turning moment. What bugs me is that speed through the tree shadows. Road is not in perfect condition.
