SRAM's new electronic groupset will be WIRELESS!!! (not confirmed)
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 794
Bikes: '11 Merlin Extralight, '98 Dean Castanza, '89 Schwinn Prologue
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
SRAM's new electronic groupset will be WIRELESS!!! (not confirmed)
Analysis: SRAM Wireless Electronic Group | Cyclingnews.com
Finally, SRAM steps up their game and takes the technology lead.
I, for one, cannot wait for wireless components to remove clutter. I have absolutely no interest in wired electronic groups.
Finally, SRAM steps up their game and takes the technology lead.
I, for one, cannot wait for wireless components to remove clutter. I have absolutely no interest in wired electronic groups.
Last edited by link0; 05-13-14 at 01:29 PM.
#2
Powered by Di2
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Louisville/Lakwood, Colorado
Posts: 135
Bikes: Di2 this and Di2 that
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Ill stick with a wired gruppo like Di2 for now. Theyve got a lot of proving to do both in the reliability and functionality department especially with the success of EPS and Di2. Sounds like it means more batteries to charge and potential signal disruptions but it is an early product and it is very cool to see them join the banwagon.
#3
SuperGimp
Analysis: SRAM Wireless Electronic Group | Cyclingnews.com
Finally, SRAM steps up their game and takes the technology lead.
Finally, SRAM steps up their game and takes the technology lead.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,520
Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo
Mentioned: 354 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20810 Post(s)
Liked 9,456 Times
in
4,672 Posts
Sweet, soon you'll be able to hack in to your rival's groupset network and make them drop their chain.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 2,076
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#6
pan y agua
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,352
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1483 Post(s)
Liked 767 Times
in
395 Posts
Back in the day, you had to reach over and flick their D/T shifter; technological progress is great.
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
#7
pan y agua
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,352
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1483 Post(s)
Liked 767 Times
in
395 Posts
That leaves you with 2 batteries, one for each derailleur. If those come on and off easy, and plug in easily to the same charger, I'm not sure 2 batteries is much more of an issue than one.
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
#8
Senior Member
Presumably that's why they're racing it at ATOC. If the prototypes survive a race season that's a pretty good test
Batteries are definitely an issue. However, it looks like the batteries in the shifters could be very long lasting Lithium ion. The shifters don't need much power, and likely you could have disposable batteries there that last a season.
That leaves you with 2 batteries, one for each derailleur. If those come on and off easy, and plug in easily to the same charger, I'm not sure 2 batteries is much more of an issue than one.
Batteries are definitely an issue. However, it looks like the batteries in the shifters could be very long lasting Lithium ion. The shifters don't need much power, and likely you could have disposable batteries there that last a season.
That leaves you with 2 batteries, one for each derailleur. If those come on and off easy, and plug in easily to the same charger, I'm not sure 2 batteries is much more of an issue than one.
Regarding the hacking thing - I don't know much about signal technology, but encryption and pairing technology is pretty well-established. Nothing is unhackable, but I'm not too convinced that this is a big deal. Maintaining reliable signals despite interference is a much larger concern. That is, the thing MUST shift when you hit the button. If SRAM releases something with a reputation for dropping the signal, they're going to be in a world of hurt.
And remember that, while this looks like solid research, there's still a lot of speculation here.
#9
Maximus
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,846
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: California
Posts: 111
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 2.0
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Can't wait for the other guy in the competition (or some other hater) to somehow jam the signal or cause an unexpected shift by messing with the signal remotely. Unless they are doing revolving codes like garage door openers.
#11
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19
Bikes: S-works SL"5" Tarmac, No. 22 Reactor
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I am all for technological advances in any industry. But I have to say that I am very happy with my DA 9000 mechanical gruppo. Buttery smooth upshifts and downshifts. Very dependable. No worries about battery life or charging issues. Keeps weight down. Clutter? With internal routing, really? I am not saying that the wireless concept is not cool, but I am not overly excited about it at this point in time.